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Here's a light brown offering from J. Herbin, kindly provided for this review by member Jared. Thanks! :thumbup:

 

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This is one of those inks that makes me go, "aww, that's kinda too bad... it seems like it's very earnest...'

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This is a good example of why fountain pen inks should be tested in fountain pens, it worked fine in the Serwex and Noodler's Flex.

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This is a good example of why fountain pen inks should be tested in fountain pens, it worked fine in the Serwex and Noodler's Flex.

 

:roflmho:I couldn't agree more. I have been playing with some inks this weekend and found your comment to be spot on - misbehaved in dip pens, but well behaved in fps!

 

MH, another fabulous review - shame the ink wasn't palying ball. I would love your thoughts on the other J. Herbin - Isle de cafe which I find to be a beautiful burnt coffee colour in written samples!

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This is a good example of why fountain pen inks should be tested in fountain pens, it worked fine in the Serwex and Noodler's Flex.

 

True, but I try to show all sides in my reviews. Ink performs so differently, even between two similar FPs. The Noodler's Flex is set up to be a wet writer, the Serwex a dry writer. And some FP inks perform amazingly with dip nibs (Diamine Sepia and China Blue come to mind, as does J. Herbin Rouge Hematite :cloud9: ).

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MH, another fabulous review - shame the ink wasn't palying ball. I would love your thoughts on the other J. Herbin - Isle de cafe which I find to be a beautiful burnt coffee colour in written samples![/color][/font]

 

Thanks! Isle de Cafe is on the list to try! :thumbup:

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Hi,

 

Thanks for providing us with another view of this ink, especially the shading. :thumbup:

 

I am impressed that the ink performed as well as it did with the dip pens; and that the limits of the ink are apparent.

 

What you've shown is consistent with my notion that if someone wants a Dark Brown, they'd be more likely to get acceptable results by starting with a Dark Brown than by putting down a high volume HLdT from a very wet pen.

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Thanks for another great review. I do love the shading in this ink, but in some ways, I feel that I've moved on in my interest, so it sits in the back row of my inks for now.

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As soon as I get back to browns, I'll test it with an easy full flex nib.

 

I'd had no problems with my normal regular flex, semi-flex and maxi-semi-flex/'flexi' nibs, but I don't always go for max on the 'flexi' nibs.

 

I have a few papers to check it on, too.

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Thanks for the review.

I had gotten a sample of LdT a while back. At first I thought it was a little too sepia/yellow brown for my taste, but the color is starting to grow on me. I had it in my Platinum Plaisir, which is a pretty dry writer, and it was fairly well behaved; I think I'd like to see it in something slightly wetter, even with your caveats.

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This is one of those inks that makes me go, "aww, that's kinda too bad... it seems like it's very earnest...'

 

Hmm... what makes an ink "earnest"? Presumably, misbehaving inks are not earnest. Which is so much better than to tell the ink, "you are a BAD ink" - negative comments hurts an inks fragile pigments. rolleyes.gif

 

Thank you for the review and the comments.

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This is one of those inks that makes me go, "aww, that's kinda too bad... it seems like it's very earnest...'

 

Hmm... what makes an ink "earnest"? Presumably, misbehaving inks are not earnest. Which is so much better than to tell the ink, "you are a BAD ink" - negative comments hurts an inks fragile pigments. rolleyes.gif

 

Thank you for the review and the comments.

 

 

Aw, now you've got me wanting to look for non-earnest, smart alec inks.... You know, the kind of bad-behaving inks that used to be squirting out of pens in all those old cartoons. Because I'm sure that it wasn't the pens' faults....

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"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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This is one of those inks that makes me go, "aww, that's kinda too bad... it seems like it's very earnest...'

 

Hmm... what makes an ink "earnest"? Presumably, misbehaving inks are not earnest. Which is so much better than to tell the ink, "you are a BAD ink" - negative comments hurts an inks fragile pigments. rolleyes.gif

 

Thank you for the review and the comments.

 

 

Aw, now you've got me wanting to look for non-earnest, smart alec inks.... You know, the kind of bad-behaving inks that used to be squirting out of pens in all those old cartoons. Because I'm sure that it wasn't the pens' faults....

:ltcapd:

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

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Now I'm reminded of the comic with an embarrassed looking fountain pen with a small puddle of ink - Because ..... the pen lost control of its bladder.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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looks nice thanks for sharing :thumbup:

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My two-cents on this ink:

 

I use it daily in my Kaweco Sport (EF) with few problems on some of the cheapest papers known to man (i.e., public school copy paper), and I haven't found it to be as feather-prone/ "misbehaving" as shown in the first/second/third images of the review – obviously, YMMV. The color in the scans above is a near-perfect representation of the ink in real life. I rarely use anything of higher-quality than $.25/400sheet notebook filler paper, one of my favorite browns.

 

Once again, YMMV. Thanks for the review! Very accurate and thorough.

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I love this ink. I use it as my default colour in my Quo Vadis Habana notebook, which is my day to day personal journal right now. It gives a beautiful aged look on the off white paper, and I like how it shades.

 

Here is a small sample of what it looks like with my 1.1mm Italic Lamy Safari on off-white paper (sorry about the lighting, I took the photo with my phone):

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It behaves very well in my Noodler's Ahab and a Lamy Safari pens, which are what I use it with most. Then again, I use it in my Habana which is pretty good paper. It might not be for everyone but it definitely has it's place, and it is among my favorite browns. :)

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I just love the color of this ink. I have always had a thing for sepia brown inks and this one is just lovely.

 

However, I have to say that it writes a bit dry in every pen I've tried it in, including my Noodler's Konrad, which is normally a gusher. Luckily I can easily adjust the feed/nib in that pen to increase flow. I'm a wet-writing kind of guy, so the qualities of this ink mean that I'm a bit limited in the pens will want to use it in. It exhibits really lovely shading, and I adore the color, but I wish it had higher lubricity.

 

In terms of performance, I personally prefer Rohrer & Klingner Sepia, and the Iroshizuku Yamma Guri, similar colors with better practical characteristics.

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