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I know I have gone through the various postings for waterproof/bulletproof inks trying to find out which inks have what properties. It seems Nathan has already done this for us:

Noodlers-Ink-Properties.

 

Enjoy, I know I am.thumbup.gif

 

***Moderators, unless this is already pinned, could this be pinned under "Noteworthy Ink Topics Linked Here"? Thank you in advance.***

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If memory serves me right Rachel Goulet spearheaded this spreadsheet and then sent it to Nathan for final review. I didn't know it was already posted. This thing is awesome!

 

Thanks goes out to Rachel and Nathan for putting this mammoth together :clap1: :notworthy1: :clap1:

 

When I click the link I get a Page Not Found error. . .

I had the same problem. Just go to the noodler's home page and then there is an iink properties button along the top that will take you to it.

 

EDIT: ahh Essensia beat me to it

 

-Nick

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When I click the link I get a Page Not Found error. . .

Maybe under correction. Gouletpen published a list from Noodler's about Properties but Noodler's bulletproof black was listed as bulletproof but not eternal when it is writen on the bottle «The only eternal black ink.» Think it is under review.

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Because of another thread, I had to come here and look at the list. Seems like there are at least a few errors. Foremost, BSB is listed as Eternal. I've never heard of it as Eternal in the past 2-3 years I've been on FPN. Yet my HoD, which says Eternal in letters on the pretty label, isn't categorized as such. (Black is undetermined - some labels have the green eternal statement, some don't)

 

Noodler's bulletproof black was listed as bulletproof but not eternal when it is writen on the bottle «The only eternal black ink.» Think it is under review.

Yeah, I had that debate about a year ago. Some bottles have the statement (newer?), some don't (older?). Size of bottle may have a role too.

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Yeah gotta give credit to Rachael Goulet for getting this put together and sent to Nathan. She is updating it.

With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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My Kung Te-cheng was listed as eternal when I purchased it.

 

I bought it from Jetpens when it was one of their exclusives. It was described by them as Eternal.

 

I thought Whaleman's Sepia was too but I'm not sure. I know it reacts to bleach with the color shift.

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Also, I thought the Black Roses inks were partially bulletproof.

I know it's partially water-resistant, but whether or not it'll hold up to a cup full of bleach...?

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Regardless of a few inaccuracies, Rachael is my hero for making this list. What a time saver.

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I think it's important to remember than just because an ink is not listed as eternal does not mean it's necessarily non-archival. Look at the fade tests people have done on the standard line of Noodler's inks such as blue, standard green, Habanero and Apache Sunset. Even after months in the sun there was barely any noticeable fading. That to me says that most Noodler's inks will still be legible many years into the future.

 

Of course, the caveat is that if you're drinking something and accidentally spill it, many of these inks will wash away. But so as long as they're kept dry and in a dark place, they should be legible for decades into the future. Maybe they won't be legible 100 years into the future like eternal links will, but most of us will be dead by then and it won't matter. I guess our ghosts can come back and ask our descendants if standard green held up as well as Bad Green Gator. ;)

 

I only make these predictions based on fade tests posted to FPN, but it looks to me that Noodlers inks have some of the best fade resistance I've seen. And fade resistance (and neutral pH) is the most important thing to consider for long term archiving.

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I am working on getting this updated on our site, and updated on the Noodler's Ink site, but here are the latest revisions after speaking with Nathan.

 

I mentioned in the other thread that we'll be interviewing Nathan very soon where he can help explain the differences in the properties. It makes so much more sense to hear him explain the differences between eternal and bulletproof, fraud-resistant, etc. :thumbup:

noodler\'s ink properties 09.27.11.pdf

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Thanks, Rachel!

 

My specific comments about the Baystate inks:

 

Cranberry isn't waterproof, so can't be eternal.

Concord Grape is a mix of Cranberry and Blue, so it's only as eternal as blue.

Blue is waterproof, but it's not fadeproof.

 

I love BSB, but it's definitely quirky.

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Rachel, rock on! Thank you for this!

 

Say... I don't mean to sound piggish, but would you happen to know the properties of Schreibtinte Braun (exclusive to Landolt-Arbenz in Basel, Switzerland)? It's very, very close to Walnut, and I'm thinking that if it isn't bulletproof, it's certainly water-resistant. It's my favorite ink now!

 

Again, thank you for making this list!

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I know I have gone through the various postings for waterproof/bulletproof inks trying to find out which inks have what properties. It seems Nathan has already done this for us:

Noodlers-Ink-Properties.

 

Enjoy, I know I am.thumbup.gif

 

***Moderators, unless this is already pinned, could this be pinned under "Noteworthy Ink Topics Linked Here"? Thank you in advance.***

 

I seem to have added a bit to the link...(I believe it was Google Docs).

http://noodlersink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/noodlers-ink-properties-2.pdf is the correct link.

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I updated our site with the latest copy of the table (I'm sure more revisions will be made per further discussions with Nathan), and all of our products have full descriptions to match. http://www.gouletpens.com/Noodlers_Ink_s/808.htm

 

Thanks! :thumbup:

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Bless you my dear, for all this clear thinking displayed in a graphic format. Its not like you don't have anything else to do, either. Rock on Rachel!

first fountain pen: student Sheaffer, 1956

next fountain pen: Montblanc 146 circa 1990

favourite ink: Noodler's Zhivago

favourite pen: Waterman No. 12

most beautiful pen: Conway Stewart 84 red with gold veins, oh goodness gracious

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