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J. Herbin was established in 1670.

 

M. Herbin was a sailor, and from his many journeys to India he brought back to Paris formulas for manufacturing sealing wax. His special lacquer formula improved the quality of the seals in adhesion and neatness, helping him to become famous throughout the kingdom.

 

J. Herbin is also the oldest name in ink production in the world.

 

By 1700, the company was producing “l’Encre de la Tete Noire,” followed by “Perle des Encres,” (The Jewel of Inks) and “l’Encre des Vaisseaux” (The Ink of Ships).

 

J. Herbin made ink for Louis XIV, and a black ink for the sole use of Victor Hugo, author of The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Les Miserables. These formulas still reside in our company headquarters in Paris.

 

At the moment company belongs to Exaclair Inc, that has rights to brands like Clairefontaine, Rhodia, Brause or G. Lalo.

 

J. Herbin offers 30 standard colors:

 

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Additionally every year J. Herbin offers 1670 ink:

 

  1. Rouge Hematite
  2. Ocean Blue
  3. Stormy Grey

The inks collected in the series have great bottles and contain "goldish" particles.

Rouge Hematite is stunning deep red. I would prefer it not to have gold component, I could enjoy the color more.

It's not really waterproof, yet the text is still legible after 10-15 minutes in the water.

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Bottle

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Ink Splash

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Drops of ink on kitchen towel

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Software Id

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Oxford Recycled 90 g, Kaweco Sport Classic, B

 

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Comaprison

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Haha! I actually like the color and I happen to have an empty Pilot Varsity I have saved to refill. I think I might try it out. I have confined my use of Noodler's Baystate Blue to a Pilot Varsity and it works wonderfully. I don't care if it stains one of those! :)

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Thanks for the review, always nice to see 1670 inks. Just wondering, there doesn't seem to be much of a golden sheen in your pictures. Which version of Rouge Hematite do you have? (original, second, or third?)

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The inks collected in the series have great bottles and contain "goldish" particles.

Rouge Hematite is stunning deep red. I would prefer it not to have gold component, I could enjoy the color more.

Bottle

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Personally, I hate the bottle. It is very beautiful, but the opening is even more narrow than the standard Herbin bottles, and very tall. Once the ink is half-gone, it will have to go into another container anyway. I can barely fit a dip pen in there much less a full size pen.

 

As for preferring the color sans gold, it is very easy to get that look. If you don't shake the bottle before filling, there will be very little of the gold in your pen and the ink still sheens a gorgeous gold/green. From your photos, it looks like this is what you did.

 

Thanks for another great review.

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Very Nice ink.

 

I onlyhave the 1670 Ocena blue(among normal Herbin's)

 

Lovethose gold particles.... Are they still in the ink? Iheard the recipe has changed. Well since I love Herbin inks I wilget the Rouge and theStormy Grey....

 

BTW What isthat wiht noodleinks I heard story about those inks torturing Fountain Pens to a horrible Death

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No problems with Lamy Safari and Al-Star.

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I first filled a Sheaffer No Nonsense pen, with a broad Italic nib, when I received this ink. I had no clue how the particles in suspension would affect the flow & I was still refilling the same pen for more than two years & never had a problem with it. I did know I had to shake it prior to cause the gold to be mixed with the ink, otherwise I merely had a perfectly nice red & NO gold.

 

After I realised I had no issue with this ink I was a bit more comfortable to use the later Herbin inks in other pens, although I always chose cartridge / converters instead of Piston fillers. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I experienced no clogs with any of the Herbin gold infused inks.

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I first filled a Sheaffer No Nonsense pen, with a broad Italic nib, when I received this ink. I had no clue how the particles in suspension would affect the flow & I was still refilling the same pen for more than two years & never had a problem with it. I did know I had to shake it prior to cause the gold to be mixed with the ink, otherwise I merely had a perfectly nice red & NO gold.

 

After I realised I had no issue with this ink I was a bit more comfortable to use the later Herbin inks in other pens, although I always chose cartridge / converters instead of Piston fillers. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I experienced no clogs with any of the Herbin gold infused inks.

 

Very lucky, I'd say, mine clogs up a Lamy Vista in days, but I've learned to live with it. Just look at that poor nib on my avatar!

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Yes, I agree with you: Would Herbin spared us with the gold particles, Rouge hématite would be a gorgeous red for me! I use this red as standard read in one of my every day fountain pens and I got used to the particles and the problems the provoke with my pen. It needs regularly cleaning. And - in contrast to Bleu océan - it behaves very good on thin and absorbing paper, as it virtually does not feather.

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Interesting to see what the color is without the gold bits. With the flecks the color seems more like an ugly orange than red.

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Hm... I am really sorry but I can't see orange in Rouge hématite... brown? yes, but orange?

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I've never had a problem cleaning a pen after using it, but this ink is SLUDGE. It has too much metallic flake in it, hold it next to a bottle of stormy grey or chivor and it has at least five times the sparkle.

 

I can't leave it in a pen for more than a couple days without stoppage issues. No other 1670 does that.

 

I'd absolutely buy this color of sheening red without the sparkle though. I have the bottle more for my collection, because I certainly don't use it much.

 

I use diamine firestorm red for my shimmering red. works much better.

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Sludge is unfortunately the drastic but realistic description of what you have when you clean the pen. I'm regularly baffled by the amount of sludge that comes out of my tiny Kaweco Sport... without the glitter it would be perfect.

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It's such a shame, because the ink has some really cool green/brown sheen that no other ink has. All the glitter actually harms the colors of rouge hematite, rather than stormy grey and chivor that are accentuated by it.

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Yes, I can completely agree to you - especially in regard to Bleu océan as the glitter seems pendant between gold and silver which is charming for me - and would add that Émeraude de Chivor does also not need the glitter particles as the colour alone is beautiful enough. For my impression the glitter disturbs this colour.

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