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#1 zabo

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 17:49

Hi,
today I went to a flea market and came back with a couple of pens.
One of them you can find it here.

The other one is a black Aurora Superna from 1933 in fairly good conditions.
Here are some pictures:

Aurora_Superna_1.JPG

On the body, just below the cap, there are some scratches and the cap screws in, but not perfectly.
I looked very well at those scratches and it seems there was some figure imprinted that somebody has tried to remove scratching the celluloid.
I can distinguish part of a boxed border and some indistinguishable letters.
It may be some fascist era engraving that was removed.
Does anybody have a clue?

On the nib it's written Aurora Torino 6 585% and is a very flexible fine.

Aurora_Superna_3.JPG

The internal mechanics with the cute end lever filling system works perfecty.
It draws, expels and keeps water and has a nice springy feel.
Now I need to wait for it to dry to try with ink.

Aurora_Superna_4.JPG

I don't know much more about this pen so I was wandering if you guys could give me some historical help.

Thank you



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Posted 15 March 2009 - 18:43

I wish I live in Italy and find such pens on the flea market smile.gif
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 20:37

Ma che botta di C... Complimenti!
What a sumgai...

Sometimes on FP barrels were placed owner initials or commercial advertisings,
is possible that pen was sold, lost or stolen, the new owner could have tried to
delete the personalization, can you take a close up of scratches?

Will write something about Superna history with pleasure, but tomorrow.

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Edited by sanpei, 15 March 2009 - 20:44.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 20:56

Outstanding find! Congratulations on your new pen.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 20:57

Here you can find some information about the Superna: http://www.fountainpen.it/Superna. Ask for translation, if needed. Here there is an asked price for a celluloid version: http://www.lastilogr...com/AURORA.html. The filling system has been adopted recently for the Aurora Leonardo da Vinci.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 21:09

Here is a drawing of what remains of the engraving on the barrel.
All the rest has been removed.

>>>Edited to change the drawing and add photo<<<

The pen is "unvolved" in the drawing.

Aurora_Superna_9.JPG

Also some pictures of the engraving





>>>Edited to change the drawing and add photo<<<

Edited by zabo, 16 March 2009 - 12:18.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 21:20

I'm looking forward to sanpei's post tomorrow about the history of this pen! Thanks for posting the pictures of this beautiful pen--I especially like the cap band and would like to see some closeups of it if possible. Congratulations on such a great find!

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 21:31

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 15 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm looking forward to sanpei's post tomorrow about the history of this pen! Thanks for posting the pictures of this beautiful pen--I especially like the cap band and would like to see some closeups of it if possible. Congratulations on such a great find!


I'm looking forward to his post too...

The cap band looks hand chiselled:

Aurora_Superna_12.JPG

>>>Edited to change the photograph<<<

Edited by zabo, 16 March 2009 - 17:13.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 21:33



Beautiful, classic pen. You'll have to tell us how little you paid, just to torture us further.....
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 08:30

QUOTE (Bearcat @ Mar 15 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Beautiful, classic pen. You'll have to tell us how little you paid, just to torture us further.....


I thought about it and decided that for mental sanity reasons is better not to disclose this information tongue.gif
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 12:27

This post to inform that I've edited some photographs in the previous posts to better show some detail.

I take the occasion to post a writing sample:

Aurora_Superna_10.JPG

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 17:11

Gorgeous pen- great find!
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 21:11

Promised post will be short as usual, don't worry biggrin.gif
Superna was launched on marked on 1937
nice look, nice cap band, new filling system but colors were the same of Novum
made in same period.







As said Superna shows a new filling system, based on a small celluloid ball,
sliding the sphere in two ways the pressure bar push the ink sack.

Superna were marked on section only,
two sizes, medium with #2 1/2 or #3 nib
and senior with #5 or #6 nib













Superna as often happened in Aurora production was used for advertising purposes,
ads were placed on barrel or on cap top, to keep price low filling system was the
cheaper button filler and usually on section the imprint was
Aurora Torino instead Aurora Superna, but pens were exatly same, in cololors ad finishing




Deco band with leaves was the novelty of Superna look,
but even if not easy, is possible find examples with greek or three thin rings on cap




I like Superna's a lot, is for me the on of more elegant celluloid pen of thirtiest.

That's it.

S

Edited by sanpei, 16 March 2009 - 21:11.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 23:14

Thank you Sanpei for the most interesting historical lecture.

The name Superna in latin stands for ultraterrena in italian, extraterrestrial or supernal (in english is easier).
Am I right?

Have you identified in any way what remains of the engraving on my specimen?

I wonder why the filling system has not been used anymore.
Was it prone to rupture? Was it too complicated?
Do you happen to have drawings on the internal mechanics?
It feels sturdy and it holds a considerable amount of ink, with rapid filling and unfilling.
So far it seems one of the best filling systems I've used.

Who has one and who agree/disagree with me?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 10:52

As far as I know in modern pens this filling system has been used by Aurora again, in the beautiful Leonardo Da Vinci.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:00

Where the h... do you find these flea markets?

I try around here and I find NOTHING of interest.



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Posted 17 March 2009 - 12:45

Thank you, sanpei, for a very helpful history of this beautiful model of Aurora. The celluloid on the examples you show is truly extraordinary! I wish I could be in Italy to find such examples of those fine pens, but I'll have to rely on sanpei to supply me with them! Sanpei--you should write a book on the Aurora pen so we could all benefit from your vast knowledge of the subject. And thanks to you Arnolda for the closeups of that beautiful band on the Superna!

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 14:16

Ok I'll add my .... ehm... Superna?


It looks like a Superna, but it's the simplified version with a normal button filler. This pen has the FIAT logo on the cap and his original box. Looks like that Fiat bought a batch of these pens to give away to some employees (this one come from the estate or a former plant director) and probably they got them at a cheaper price.

Here 2 regular pens in burgundy, standard and OS


Tho OS opened

Edited by roberto v, 17 March 2009 - 14:18.


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Posted 17 March 2009 - 14:45

QUOTE
Superna as often happened in Aurora production was used for advertising purposes,
ads were placed on barrel or on cap top, to keep price low filling system was the
cheaper button filler and usually on section the imprint was
Aurora Torino instead Aurora Superna, but pens were exatly same, in cololors ad finishing


Ciao Roberto grazie per le immagini...

I quoted myself, thanks to Roberto for posting an exaple of green Superna with AD on cap top,
I found some FIAT Superna in my collector life, about an half dozen all of them were OS green, silly???

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 18:43

QUOTE (roberto v @ Mar 17 2009, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok I'll add my .... ehm... Superna?


It looks like a Superna, but it's the simplified version with a normal button filler. This pen has the FIAT logo on the cap and his original box. Looks like that Fiat bought a batch of these pens to give away to some employees (this one come from the estate or a former plant director) and probably they got them at a cheaper price.

Here 2 regular pens in burgundy, standard and OS


Tho OS opened


Thanks for these stunning photographs!!! That burgundy one is a beauty! Congratulations on having such fine examples of a the Superna.






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