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Great comparison goodguy! I too, prefer the aesthetics of the Dumas over the Hemingway.

Enjoy them both!

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Nice thought but very little chance. I think Vintage MB pens are great but not something I would spend so much money.

The 139 can go as high as 1500$ and more and for this much money I would get a POA pen.

So unless somebody will give a 139 just for a comparison between the 3 pens I would say (sadly) the chance of this happening is very slim :crybaby:

 

Thanks for the comparison. I enjoyed it. So let me ask you...where can you find a L139 for $1500...I'll buy one instantly for that price. They fetch much more. I expect a L139 to be between $2500-$3000.

 

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[quote name='goodguy' post='960096' So let me ask you...where can you find a L139 for $1500...I'll buy one instantly for that price. They fetch much more. I expect a L139 to be between $2500-$3000.

 

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Well I saw not a long while back a MB 139 go for 1500 on eBay.

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This is a pretty good review of two classics. They are also the only two WEs that have ever been based on the 139. I agree with many of your comments and find that it just wouldn't be right to say one is better than the other. They are both unique and great looking pens with different design features, and yet they happen to write the same owing to their shared basic shape.

 

I for one am looking forward to MB producing its third variation on the 139 - when that will be is anyone's guess.

 

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This is a pretty good review of two classics. They are also the only two WEs that have ever been based on the 139. I agree with many of your comments and find that it just wouldn't be right to say one is better than the other. They are both unique and great looking pens with different design features, and yet they happen to write the same owing to their shared basic shape.

 

I for one am looking forward to MB producing its third variation on the 139 - when that will be is anyone's guess.

 

Thanks

Yes I agree it would be nice to see another 139 in the WE pens.

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Loved the review, you do them with the heart and that's visible :)

 

I love the size of the 139, but I agree with those that said before the Hemy is less blingy, which is a plus for me.

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Thanks for the great side by side. I own a Dumas so it is easy for me to say which I prefer.

 

Remember back in late '93 when every B&M pen store would have a handful of Hemis going for less than 1/2 price. I vividly remember Artlite in Atlanta having between 5 and 10 of them, just trying to move them. If I had only know.

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This is an excellent comparison that I have missed - thanks for reviving it, encre. This must be one of your best reviews, Goodguy. Comparisons are so useful!

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<!--quoteo(post=959553:date=Mar 3 2009, 05:29 PM:name=asimplemaestro)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (asimplemaestro @ Mar 3 2009, 05:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959553"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=959542:date=Mar 3 2009, 06:20 PM:name=goodguy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (goodguy @ Mar 3 2009, 06:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959542"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=959452:date=Mar 3 2009, 04:06 PM:name=Bryant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bryant @ Mar 3 2009, 04:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959452"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, I you could only have one, which one would it be?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

As a user I would choose the Dumas. I always said I love the Dumas. I love the way it looks.

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Is this also partly due to the smoothness of the Hemi?

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No,nib is something that can easily be adjusted by a pro. SMG (Sean Gosse) can tune the nib to my taste. I really think the dumas is better looking then the Hemi. I always thought the Dumas is the best looking WE pen.

The Hemi is the most important pen in any WE collection but if you would want one of these two pens just for everyday use then why spend close to 2K on a boxless pen or 2.5K-3.5K on this pen when you can write with basicly a pen that gives you the same writing experiance looks better (to my taste) and will cost around 800$ with the box or 600$ without the box ?

Its all a matter of money.

 

Does a Dumas really cost $600 without the box?

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That's a really good price considering the large 149 size nib and the lower number of FPs in thei LE, compared to the Hemingway. Really nice review, thanks! I'll start looking for a Dumas without box......

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<!--quoteo(post=959553:date=Mar 3 2009, 05:29 PM:name=asimplemaestro)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (asimplemaestro @ Mar 3 2009, 05:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959553"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=959542:date=Mar 3 2009, 06:20 PM:name=goodguy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (goodguy @ Mar 3 2009, 06:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959542"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=959452:date=Mar 3 2009, 04:06 PM:name=Bryant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bryant @ Mar 3 2009, 04:06 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=959452"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well, I you could only have one, which one would it be?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

As a user I would choose the Dumas. I always said I love the Dumas. I love the way it looks.

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Is this also partly due to the smoothness of the Hemi?

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No,nib is something that can easily be adjusted by a pro. SMG (Sean Gosse) can tune the nib to my taste. I really think the dumas is better looking then the Hemi. I always thought the Dumas is the best looking WE pen.

The Hemi is the most important pen in any WE collection but if you would want one of these two pens just for everyday use then why spend close to 2K on a boxless pen or 2.5K-3.5K on this pen when you can write with basicly a pen that gives you the same writing experiance looks better (to my taste) and will cost around 800$ with the box or 600$ without the box ?

Its all a matter of money.

 

 

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A great review as always goodguy! I love the hemi's blaze orange body but prefer the dumas nib. Its a good thing I dont collect Montblanc! ;)

 

 

Thanks for reviving this review.

 

I have been obsessing about both of these pens, actually.

 

To be honest, the Dumas pen seems to do it for me much, much more. There are days that I actually hate the Hemingway. I know, hate is such a strong word, but it's true. I think it has to do with the price tag versus the otherwise blah feelings I have for it. The mixture turns into hatred. Some days I love it, and some days, I am just indifferent to it. It is just a big fat pen with a big fat price tag due to a big fat demand. There are other days, like today, where it is super hard not to buy one. A Hemi just ended on eBay for just over $1,500. It took every ounce of self restraint not to put in a bid in the last few seconds to blow the whole thing out of the water. I wanted that pen so bad I could pee right there in my favorite chair. I got up at 3:00 am to watch the end of the auction. Yeah, I HATE Hemingway pens.

 

The Dumas is always beautiful to me. Nib, section, barrel, cap and super, slit your throat clip. I could buy it and not have to worry about my daughter's tuition, or the mortgage payment. It is within this month's or any month's; fun-money, as I call it.

 

I really love both pens, but I am minutes, figuratively speaking, from buying a Dumas. I have a lot more soul searching to do, to justify a Hemi purchase.

 

But, goodguy, your review, with the pens side by side; helped me considerably.

 

Thanks a million.

 

Love,

 

Joe

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But, goodguy, your review, with the pens side by side; helped me considerably.

 

Thanks a million.

 

Love,

 

Joe

I wrote this review exactly for people like you.

If you want the Hemi then no matter how much the Dumas feels equal you would still go for the Hemi but for those who debate which one to get like you Joe this review I hope can help.

 

Please share with us all what you got and add pictures too if posible :thumbup:

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As I sit here admiring my new Dumas, I'm glad I read the review. I've had mine about a month...sent it off for a Cursive Italic re-grind by Greg Minuskin. Magnificent!! Wrote nice and smooth with the original fine/medium nib but wanted to make this special pen, more special!

 

I suppose if you have the Hemi and the Dumas side by side, you might say the Dumas has "bling."

 

However, by itself, the Dumas is a work of art. I consider it a bit subdued to call it bling, but then, the Hemi is more of an orange and black plain jane, and most pens put side by side to it will outshine it. It is a perfect simplicity in itself.

 

I like both pens.....bought the Dumas, and don't feel the want/need for the Hemingway. I write with my pens...and the Dumas is a superb writer.

 

Thanks for the comparison!

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Goodguy, absolutely wonderful review. I would have loved to read it before I bought my Dumas but I know now that it would not have changed my decision. But reading it now, I am glad I held off getting a Hemi.

Back in 1994, when I was doing my postgrad in Melbourne, I saw one sitting in a window and I held off buying it. Now the price has gone through the roof, I do have a tinge of regret. I love orange barrel pens. But being a pragmatist, at this price today, I would find it hard to use it in fear of damaging it or loosing it. I find that risk on a Dumas far more palatable.

 

What is curious is that there are 20,000 FP Hemis (15k for FP Dumas that is a lot less but still a lot floating around). Practically, its not a rare pen.

 

As a pen user rather than a collector, I suspect with great likelihood, MontBlanc (actually more so Richemont that has a knack of reissuing variations of its successful limited editions with its watch brands) will reissue a version of it if not an orange barrel, a black or possibly an alternative colour/material barrel. I would love to see a brown tortoise barrel in this design.

 

Thanks again for the review. GREAT read.

 

Cheers

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Hi

I found an old photo of mine. The Dumas next to a Delta Dolce Vita.

I guess the Delta is to satiate the Hemingway crave. Its quite close in size and shape with the MB.

 

I would love to know if anyone has done a comparison review between the Hemingway and the Dolce Vita!

My views between the Dolce and Dumas is - the Dolce has a thicker section which was strange to me at first. But I got used to it. I would much prefer the Dumas dimension. Second, the cap posted much nicer and had a better balance on the Dumas than the Dolce (even the photo shows it).

 

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