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The Lamy 2000 Experiment
Posted 23 January 2009 - 18:19
Anyone else remember this?
As for the Lamy experiment, I think it was quite interesting and applaud the experimenter. The 2000 continues to intrigue me simply because people's experiences seem to vary widely, perhaps more so than with many other pens.
Posted 23 January 2009 - 21:34
More seriously, never expected anything but the results you reported. My 2000 is absolutely great!
~ Oscar Wilde, 1888
Posted 23 January 2009 - 22:01
If I could convince Matthewst1 to sell me this pen , AND if I could convince a pilot to let me drop this out of a [heated] airplane, AND if it is still winter here in Chicago (its been another brutal season so far) ...
I could replicate this series of test, North-American style (everything to excess, got me this far ).
However, it would probably take me until summer to find the darn thing.
-- Manservant Neville (The Middleman: The Clotharian Contamination Protocol)
Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:33
And I say again:
I can't imagine ever doing that to my Lamy 2000 (I just had to go visit it and reassure it that it's a good pen and I'm not tossing it off of any roofs, stoops, or other structures), but I'm glad you did. It's nice to know the pen really is as tough as it seems.
Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:47
I appreciate your durability assessment, but I'm afraid your mad experiment may have voided the lifetime warranty of your pen... even if you sent it in for a nib replacement several years from now, Lamy will no doubt see the damage and declare that your pen is the product of abuse. Nevertheless, I'm sure you realized this before your tests, and, in full consideration of the detrimental future consequences of your heinous actions, you have sacrificed your pen for the good of the pen community. The quest for knowledge continues.
Yes, I'd like to see some pictures as well!
Quite frankly, I'm amazed that dropping the pen 2 meters onto concrete did not cause any abrasions to the smooth top end of the cap (given how it landed on it). Perhaps it landed square on... because from an angle, I'd guarantee that the sharp edge would be knocked flat. I got my L2K used and there are a couple of extremely small flat spots on the edging that I can see up close with the naked eye.
Question: When you exposed the L2K to extremely cold temperatures, did it have a full load of ink? I wonder if the pen could hold up to a full compliment of ink freezing and expanding (ink will expand as it freezes, less so with Noodler's Polar ink).
In any case, I applaud you for being so bold with your L2K. Talk about having faith in the pen. I know someone who has some real beater L2K parts... likely from being exposed to harsh sunlight for many years (cap cracks galore, and much fading on cap/barrel). If he could assemble a pen from parts that have unslightly blemishes (parts he wouldn't otherwise use) and then go gangbusters on more aggressive testing, it would be fascinating. This is of course assuming that the existing damage hasn't weakened the Makrolon to the point where it'll easily fail.
Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:52
"A pen is certainly an excellent instrument to fix a man's attention and to inflame his ambition."
Posted 24 January 2009 - 05:10
I don't sell my pens; so no, it won't be in the marketplace
As for the two meter drop, it landed pretty square on, thats why there aren't any marks from that test. As for the reasons behind the experiment - or - 'torture;' I mainly wanted to test the reputation of the pen, and have a bit of fun! After all, there's plenty more 2000s out there.
Here is a pic of the cap after the tests:
Posted 24 January 2009 - 05:15
p p e n l o v e r r
Posted 24 January 2009 - 05:22
Posted 24 January 2009 - 06:15
I got mine for 89 USD (100 with shipping); so there are some good prices out there. Yeah in Oz in summer temperatures in parked, exposed cars can get up to and even over 30 degrees above the outside temperature. Lots of dead babies, unfortunately.
Posted 24 January 2009 - 07:00
A rugged pen for a punishing sport.
Well done Matthew.
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Visconti LE Divina Proporzione in Gold with Binderized CI nib
David Oscarson Valhalla in gray (Thor) with Broad Binderized CI nib
Michel Perchin LE Blue Serpent (reviewed) with Binderized CI nib
Montblanc 149 in Medium Binderized CI nib
Montblanc Pope Julius II 888 Edition (reviewed) in Bold Binderized CI nib
Posted 24 January 2009 - 07:15
Posted 24 January 2009 - 15:07
Now I have full trust in durability of my 2 L2k. Woo hoo!
My fountain pens:
Parker Duofold, Sonnet,Premier
Pelikan Souverän M1000, M800, M805, M600, M400 White tortoise
Sheaffer Legacy Heritage, Valor,
Lamy 2000, Vista, Safari, Joy ,Studio
Montblanc Meisterstück 149, Pilot 78G
Posted 24 January 2009 - 16:39
Of course, the L2K is made of a fiberglass/plastic material. The Fenix T1 shown above is made of tough metal.
I'm now tempted to get a beater Rotring 600 and run it through some abuse tests.
Edited by MYU, 24 January 2009 - 16:40.
Posted 24 January 2009 - 22:36
Posted 25 January 2009 - 15:27
Assuming you flew :-) and used the pen on the flight, how did the pen do? Any blorping (drops of ink coming out like giant radioactive ants inexorably advancing toward the paper), ink on the section/inside the cap?
Posted 25 January 2009 - 16:33
but thanks for sharing the test results-tough pen-certainly meets the measure...and then some.
Posted 25 January 2009 - 17:52
I'd like to see you "have at it" on a MB 149 and a Pelikan M1000. THEN, we'd know which is the tougher high-end pen.
Edited by Lloyd, 25 January 2009 - 18:22.
Posted 25 January 2009 - 18:16
Sailor Sapporo / Sailor 1911
Lamy 2000 / Studio / Safari
WTB: Nakaya Writer (when pigs fly!)