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SOENNECKEN 111 LADY light tortoiseshell


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#1 Gehaha

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 20:58

O.K., MYU, I’ll try to do it: headsmack.gif

REVIEW: SOENNECKEN 111 LADY, herringbone light (brown) tortoiseshell

Soennecken is an old german manufacturer for everything needed in an office.
It's countrywide known by every child and I think in every
german household there will be something with their trademark:

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I trusted the "unknown"-pen- purchase because "Soennecken" items can't be wrong,
must be what people call "german quality".

First of all: I always read, there are four series of this pen 111, 222, 333, 444 in three sizes Lady, Superior, Extra
and different colors.
So I was curious, how the variations look.
Now here you will get an idea (poorly the colors didn't come out as bright as they are):

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From left to right: S.111 Lady and Extra, S.222 Lady and Superior, S.333 Superior, S.444 Superior and Extra.
They all have a 14kt goldnib with the “Crown”, but different feeds.

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From left to right - nib and feed: 111 Extra, 111 Lady (above); 222 Superior; 444 Extra; 333 Superior.

The 111 and 222 series have celluloid bodies and caps. Clip and caprings are goldplated brass.
(Mine are all together in very good shape, few signs of use.)
The 333 and 444 seem to be of “precious resin” roflmho.gif . Clip and cap-ring show, what you call “brassing”.

Soennecken 111 Lady

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FIRST IMPRESSIONS (9/10):
When I received the pen from a very good e…seller, I was astonished, what weight it had. It felt small but “heavy”.
The nib was shining bright and wrote smooth and wet. Because I didn’t know the “Click-mechanism”,
I had difficulties to use it properly at the beginning. It took a few weeks of “female intuitive technical knowledge” to learn.
(The last “enlightenment” came from “fountainbel” with his wonderful technical drawings.)

APPEARANCE AND DESIGN 10/10:

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The pen has “nobility”. The surface is glossy and shining in changing brown colours, varying with the light.
The “rounded” cap-rings, a narrow and a broad one together, add a lot of this “noble” image.
The hole clip looks unusual and is very firm/strong. It seems to be unbreakable.
The body and cap are out of celluloid, which seems to be “thicker” than other pens I know.
You don’t have the fear you could break it easily. I would call the whole design “splendid conservative”. I like it with all colors I have.

WEIGHT AND DIMENSIONS (10/10):

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Weight (inked): 22g / Length (capped): 119 mm / (with cap posted): 135 mm / (without cap) 111 mm / Cap alone 55 mm / Nib 21 mm;
Width (body at the end of the cap) 11 mm, circumference 38 mm.
For my 8-size -“lady-hand” the pen is perfect. But I can imagine, that a “male hand” needs the Superior or Extra-size.
The weight in relation to size makes the impression of “quality and worthyness”.

NIB AND PERFORMANCE (10/10):

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Nibsize B, 14 k gold, semi-flexible, moderate to wet ink flow, very smooth with various inks and papers.
The nib has a nice engraving – the Soennecken Crown. It’s easy to remove (twisting feed and nib counterclockwise with a soft tissue)
for cleaning purpose. Even though the nib writes with some flex, the material is some sort of “firm and stable”.
You can lean on a weary hand without loosing performance. I like vintage B, OB and BB nibs because of their nice qualities.
They are “flattering” to my handwriting and often produce a very nice shading of several inks.
This nib did match my (high) expectations (I am a long term user of an outstanding GEHA-goldnib).

written on coated paper and not scanned in an "hyperclean" room, as you can see... embarrassed_smile.gif


FILLING SYSTEM (9/10):

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The pen is a piston filler with a cork seal and a very special filling mechanism. The Soennecken piston has a locking mechanism:
the piston cap is first pulled out to release and then twisted to fill. When the pen is filled, the piston cap “snaps” back into the locking mechanism with a little “Click” sound.
(Remembering our beloved Miriam Makeba… crybaby.gif ).
With some advice by friend “fountainbel”, I could clean and repair my first 222.
The materials are trustworthy metals (like brass) and you feel, that those pens are manufactured for eternity.
It’s not easy to give you the right amount of ink, it holds, but measuring with a syringe showed 1,7 ml of ink.
When the cork seal is new (like in this 111 Lady), it fills completely on the first shot.
If you have an old or dry cork seal you should change it or leave it to a gifted service person.
The filling mechanism could get locked or the spring inside the “click-mechanism” could rust in the case of leaking.
You can see, whether there was leakage before by a dark ring in the piston knob.
The cork is the only weak point of this pen: you should always make sure, that it’s inked or
filled with (destilled) water to prevent the “cork- shrinking-syndrome”. unsure.gif The whole issue sometimes makes you dependant to a professional.

COST AND VALUE (10/10):
I bought this pen in May ’07 at e…. The seller was a very trustworthy german, who did repair/service this pen, fixed a new cork seal.
(Most of my pictures are from him – I couldn’t do it better …) It took 268,- €, what left me breathless on the first shot, but I did never regret.
Compared to quiet expensive new pens of equal level this vintage buddy is perfect and worth it’s price. Regarding the quality and beauty it’s “best value”.
But: I’wouldn't pay much more. I would never participate in any bidding-battle or something like that.
If you can wait and see, you will find one for a reasonable price. Sometimes it’s worthwhile to buy a lousy one and repair it – the substance always is really good.

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CONCLUSION (5,5/6):

I can only recommend this kind of fountainpen.
As a reliable daily writer and collector’s item it’s absolutely worthwhile.
The only weakness is the cork seal.
Design, nib qualities and celluloid are from outstanding quality and a masters craftsmanship.

I hope you may enjoy this review instead of my adventurous english. Werbung.jpg
Feel free to ask further questions, if needed.

Much greetings,
Anna

Edited by Gehaha, 03 December 2008 - 22:46.

I'm not a native speaker of the english language. My apologies in advance when I'm causing trouble by bad grammar, wrong vocabulary, misspelling - friendly correction always welcome!


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#2 MYU

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 21:42

Anna, what an exceptional review. Thanks so much for doing it! smile.gif Soennecken really did a marvelous job with the 111 and 222 models. It's a shame that they weren't made in a higher volume.

The 111 reminds me a little of the Parker Golden Web model.



And I have a Royce pen (probably German or Italian make) with a similar pattern as well (a pen I'm long overdue writing a review of).

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 22:27

Tausend Dank!

I have been coveting a Soennecken for more than six months--perhaps one day I'll find one as beautiful as this, Gehaha.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 16:29

Wow- me too! smile.gif
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Posted 23 February 2009 - 21:15

Thank you Anna! I hear that the Soennecken pens are wonderful. You have made many of us very interested.



#6 georges zaslavsky

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 22:11

thanks a lot for sharing
Pens are like watches , once you start a collection, you can hardly go back. And pens like all fine luxury items do improve with time

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 03:35

QUOTE (Gehaha @ Dec 3 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I trusted the "unknown"-pen- purchase because "Soennecken" items can't be wrong,
must be what people call "german quality".

...
Anna


Once, I've had some seminars in that building over course of a few years, which was under constant, slow restoration. I wasn't aware of it being a former Soennecken factory. happyberet.gif

A pretty pen, this 111, I like it. Thanks for the review, Anna.

Soennecken went bankrupt some decades ago. Today, the brand name is in use by a stationery manufacturer's sales cooperative.

Edited by saintsimon, 24 February 2009 - 03:47.


#8 Gehaha

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 03:37

QUOTE (georges zaslavsky @ Feb 23 2009, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks a lot for sharing


Thank you Georges,

it was pleasure!
I'm also a fan of your beloved 149!
(waiting for one, Fred found cloud9.gif for us...)
Loving the MB 149, a Soennecken 111 EXTRA could please you.

Au revoir,
Anna

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 05:21

QUOTE (Gehaha @ Feb 24 2009, 04:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (georges zaslavsky @ Feb 23 2009, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks a lot for sharing


Thank you Georges,

it was pleasure!
I'm also a fan of your beloved 149!
(waiting for one, Fred found cloud9.gif for us...)
Loving the MB 149, a Soennecken 111 EXTRA could please you.

Au revoir,
Anna

thanks Anna, I was always a fan of Soennecken and Osmia but the prices are pretty high but who knows maybe I will find one.

Edited by georges zaslavsky, 24 February 2009 - 05:22.

Pens are like watches , once you start a collection, you can hardly go back. And pens like all fine luxury items do improve with time

#10 Gehaha

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 06:02

Sometimes you can find a good piece from
people not knowing, what they have at fleabay...

The overprized pens come from professional sellers.
Sometimes a good one from a professional german seller
shows up for 150 - 250 €.

If you are "at the point" watch auctions for you...only PM.

Best regards,
Anna
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Posted 24 February 2009 - 07:09

What a fantastic, beautifully elegant, classy pen. Is really one of those that makes you dream. Thank you for sharing the outstanding review, Anna.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 12:54

I jut read from Penboard.de the 111 and 222 were the best made German pens of that era, which is after the war.

Absolutely gorgeous pen. I got to chase black ones, I can't afford color.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:58

There are only a couple of pen that I consider spending more than $500 on. These are one of them.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 04:04

From a Soennecken lover to another. Cheers!

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 05:08

Beautiful. Just beautiful quality made fountain pens. I love the German made piston filled pens of lesser known brands.

Well, lesser known to noobies like me.

Edited by mitto, 01 November 2017 - 05:09.

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