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Ratnam Pens - photos, packing case, et al...


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#1 shrujaya

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:23

When I got my Jinhao FP, along with the superb looking pen I was fascinated with the paraphernalia that came with it…and according to me it was not merely packing material, but material that was filled with historical details…all those of you who had checked out the Jinhao post would have seen the photos of the wooden box, the Chinese inscriptions on the outside and inside, the Chinese inscriptions on the scroll, the etched characters and so on…I was intrigued and a few FPNers were kind enough to go through the inscriptions and give me enough leads to understand them…

When I received my first Ratnam FPs…(a GN 302 and a steel nib 32), I was kind of surprised to see the paraphernalia that came with the pens…I had written to Dr K V Ramanamurthy before ordering the pens and he sent me a photograph of the FPs for me to choose from and a kind of flier with the price lists for all the kinds of pens they made…I had sent the photo back to him indicating the model and colour…after I received the pens, I asked him for another photo and he was good enough to send me more…and this actually made me collect FP paraphernalia… when one sees the photos, one can actually see that the focus is on the pens…and the only piece of advertisement is Gandhiji’s letter…and since this is the forum where I hang out and post my stuff and I am familiar here, I thought I’d post this one too here…and since this is also about Indian FPs and somehow this forum has become a kind of proxy forum for Indian FPs, I think it is temporarily appropriate…



This is the opening page of the price list flier…it has the facsimile of the letter written by ‘Mahatma’ Gandhi (along with Gandhiji’s photo) to Mr K V Ratnam, the founder of Ratnam Pens, and the photo of Mr Ratnam on the top right, just above Gandhiji’s photo…and on the top right margin is my name in Kannada, the first thing I wrote after filling my Ratnam 302 gold nib pen...


This is the close up of Gandhiji’s letter which goes…
“Dear Ratnam, I must thank you for the fountain pen you have sent me through Shri Kumarappa. I have used it and it seems to be a good substitute for the foreign pens one sees in the bazaars…Yours sincerely, M K Gandhi; 6-7-1935, Wardha”…


Photo of Ratnam range of fountain pens…


Price list of fountain pens…(the prices have changed now) and specification details for each model...barrel and cap diameters and pen length...


Photo of Ratnam range of ball pens…


Photo of Ratnam range of silver and gold pens with hand engraved design…


Usually the pens arrive in this thin cardboard case…even my Ratnam GN FP arrived packed in this case…I was surprised…my brother, however, was lucky, his Ratnam GN came packed in a velvet pouch…and the funny part is I had paid and ordered for his Pen…!!!


The most interesting part is the ‘care note’ on the sticker on the case…the tone is finger wagging headmaster-ish and almost admonitory…no frills…no long list of dos and don’ts…straight to the point…

I hope all of you found this interesting…

Regards,

Jai (shrujaya)

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#2 Abhik

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 18:03

Jai! Thanks for sharing! Ratnamsons also make same lines. Good representation of their rumentary advertisement.
I have no. 15 & 32 with 14C nibs. Somehow 32 misbehaves. it writes a page& stops.
Any such advertisement for Guider etc.??
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 07:28

QUOTE (Abhik @ Nov 17 2008, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ratnamsons also make same lines.


Ratnamson = Ratnam Ballpen works. So Jai's post is about Ratnamson.

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#4 Abhik

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:23

QUOTE (hari317 @ Nov 18 2008, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Abhik @ Nov 17 2008, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ratnamsons also make same lines.


Ratnamson = Ratnam Ballpen works. So Jai's post is about Ratnamson.



Oh! Do original 'Ratnam' produce different designs?
Jai/ Hari, any of you have their catalogue?
It would be nice if both lines are shown side by side? Guider?
Thanks Hari, for correcting!
Abhik

#5 hari317

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:27

QUOTE (Abhik @ Nov 18 2008, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jai/ Hari, any of you have their catalogue?


Ratnam pens (KV Brahmam and Bros) and Guider do not have a catalog with model numbers as such. Only Ratnam son has a well organised catalogue.
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 15:35

Jai, I love this kind of ephemera! Many thanks for sharing it with us.
Tom

#7 shrujaya

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 05:27

Thanks...Abhik, Hari...

Abhik for such sustained interest...Hari is right, none of the other AP-based pen makers have anything like a catalogue...Mr Lakshamana Rao usually sends 2 kinds of publicity cards, one large and one small, both different, with Guider pen photos along with the pens ordered...but that is all...the pens shown in the card may be some of the iconic Guider models...but there is no price list, model name, specifications, etc., like what Mr Ramanamurthy does with Ratnamson Pens...Thanks to Steve, we have some names now for Guider pens...

But that does not mean that Ratnamson makes and sells only those pens that are in the catalogue...in the photograph of the letter along with price list of Ratnamson Ballpens below, you can see Mr Ramanamurthy writing that they can also make pens according to the customers' specifications...

I thought I'd append some photos here...


The Guider publicity card...large


The Guider publicity card...small


Towards the end of the letter you can see Mr Ramanamurthy's offer...the letter also gives an opportunity to see Mr Ramanamurthy's hand...I thought he'd write with a FP, but the letter is written with a Ballpen, maybe because his firm is called Ratnam Ball Pen Works...!!!

Thanks Tom...for your constant encouragement and love for Indian handmade pens...keep the support going...! I was looking for a good word to describe all this...and had to settle for 'paraphernalia'...'ephemera' is a much much better word...thanks...

Regards,

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#8 Johnny Appleseed

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 17:15

So is there anyway to buy the Ratnamson pens in the US? I missed the boat when Vikas was offering to make arrangements.

I would love to get a 21.

John
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#9 hari317

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 09:41

QUOTE (Johnny Appleseed @ Nov 19 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would love to get a 21.


John, I had posted some pictures of the R 21 dis-assembled, it has a conventional nib and feeder.

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 15:32

QUOTE (Johnny Appleseed @ Nov 19 2008, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So is there anyway to buy the Ratnamson pens in the US? I missed the boat when Vikas was offering to make arrangements.

I would love to get a 21.

John



Yes!!!

Please check the link http://pensnetwork.com/store/ or http://www.fountainp...showtopic=85487


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 13:42

any links where i can get an updated catalogue of the the Ratanam pens and if possible contact details...

and if they sell online a url for the same



#12 Shrinivasan

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 11:13

Where to buy? i mean how to buy these Ratnam Handmade pens.. please inform me



#13 shrujaya

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 11:45

Hi...one has to place an order with Ratnamson...contact details are given at the top (phone number 0883-2498782) ... call this number and speak and discuss with Dr Ramana Murthy ... and lo and presto, you will get your Ratnam FP ... 

 

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Posted 22 February 2016 - 21:00

What about buy from overseas like in the US? I would like to purchase some of their pens, especially the #21 hooded nib.



#15 mehandiratta

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 12:44

you will have to get it via some friend in India or some forwarding service...

one of the example is : http://www.indianmailbox.com/



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Posted 07 September 2016 - 01:18

I just received a 302 today after a long trip back from India.  I just wanted to ask any advice anyone might be able to offer on flow with eyedrop fillers?  Is there a proper fill level?  I filled it pretty full and it doesn't seem to want to feed at all.  When I dip the pen I can tell it's a nice writer, but when that ink is spent the flow just isn't coming from the internal reserve.  Can anyone give me some insight into what to do?  Thanks so much in advance for any help.  



#17 shrujaya

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 15:13

I just received a 302 today after a long trip back from India.  I just wanted to ask any advice anyone might be able to offer on flow with eyedrop fillers?  Is there a proper fill level?  I filled it pretty full and it doesn't seem to want to feed at all.  When I dip the pen I can tell it's a nice writer, but when that ink is spent the flow just isn't coming from the internal reserve.  Can anyone give me some insight into what to do?  Thanks so much in advance for any help.  

 

Dear Gr5lakeson ... by far the most sensible advice on filling instructions for Indian eye dropper pens is this post by my friend Hari ...

 

http://www.fountainp...er-filled-pens/

 

Many Indian FP enthusiasts have benefited from this post over the years ... I do hope you too would find this useful ...

 

Regards ...


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 10:30

I just received a 302 today after a long trip back from India.  I just wanted to ask any advice anyone might be able to offer on flow with eyedrop fillers?  Is there a proper fill level?  I filled it pretty full and it doesn't seem to want to feed at all.  When I dip the pen I can tell it's a nice writer, but when that ink is spent the flow just isn't coming from the internal reserve.  Can anyone give me some insight into what to do?  Thanks so much in advance for any help.  

Do NOT fill it to the brim. Fill it in till the ink becomes visible (maybe 10 mm below the opening.) That will allow flow of ink and prevent any vacuum inside.

Reminds me of old school days when i used to fill in my Camlin ink pens for school. 








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