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#21 jonro

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 19:48

I think that he has pretty much exhausted the "Philip Benz Collection" and is now selling whatever he can get his hands on. He is selling a Phillip Benz fountain pen, which is kind of amusing.

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 16:58

Haha, yeah! And moonriver17 got one!

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#23 MYU

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 17:52

ohmy.gif A Philip Benz branded pen?? I'll bet this guy has a marketing background and stumbled upon some cheap fountain pens he can obtain customized, perpetuating the myth of this "collection".

So who is Philip Benz? "He's just this guy, you know?" --Zaphod Beeblebrox

Seriously, he's a clever eBay bottom trawler purveying pens. He does provide a money back or exchange option and does fulfill it to avoid bad feedback, so those who have the motivation to complain will have a chance to recover from the rip off. It's the others he is making his major money off of--those who either don't have a clue that they got ripped off or just don't bother to hound him. It is this deviousness, coupled with his outlandish claims of value, that makes me loathe this individual. I will not buy anything from him, even if it would be a good deal.

Anyway, sorry to hear you had to deal with this person. His ridiculous suggestion to use 600 grit sandpaper is infuriating, as it's nuts to do this. I hope the junk pens you got from him will serve you well for the brief period they'll last. But if you want a real fountain pen, read further on this website to get some ideas (Waterman, Lamy, Parker, Pilot, etc., all offer excellent entry level pens).

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#24 RevAaron

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 19:54

Haha! I *love* 600 grit sandpaper thing. Not actually love, but more of a "holy balls, this guy is an utter nutter!" sort of way. Best part, is he words a little thing on how to use it like it was some sort of mystical rite- write your name 5 times fast, 5 times slow, whilst chanting SLANT SLANT SLANT SLANT and praying to the eternally tormented soul of George S. Parker. Or something like that.

I do agree that he is making most of his money off of people who don't know any better. There are a lot of folks like that on eBay, as well as in brick and mortar land. That doesn't make it OK for him to do it, just pointing out that he isn't unique.

It's not like the guy doesn't sell real pens. The pen I bought from him was a Sheaffer thin Balance for about the same price (or a bit less) that I would've paid here. Less than $30 IIRC. Not that I advise buying from him, but I'd sooner buy from him- at least, if the price was right- than one of the antique store places that have their own set of slimy shenanigans while being nowhere near as accomodating and knowing even less about pens. *shrug*

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 01:26

I bought one of this pens about $14 with S&h to Mexico included on eBay (Perlson eBayer). This is a student pen and there is nothing to link Staedtler with Philip Benz (in fact who's Philip Benz), one year ago I see over ebay a seller who was selling Duke pens (a special edition numbered in memory of Philip Benz with a price of $250 usd) this was a fraud (Maker haven't this collection) this pen is D134 from Duke you can buy it by 10usd+S&H on eBay (no recommended pen). A sample of this pen you can get it clicking here

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 02:03

I am so glad that this thread came back to life. It is priceless.
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#27 FarmBoy

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 02:43

Anyone want to bid on a PBC pen for me? I'm banned for life.

You should all be careful, he reads the posts here. Seems that is how I got banned.

Bummer, no more $255 Esterbrooks and $765 "51" Specials that have not been exposed to the element.

Real Bummer.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 05:30

QUOTE (FarmBoy @ Jun 2 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 00:50

See

http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=280342759879

I wondered what a Phillip Benz Collection pen might be, and I am mightily impressed! The descriptions says, "EACH NIB HAS THE PATENTED SLIDE BALL TIP. A TEMPERED SOLID STEEL POLISHED ALLOY. A TRUE FLEX MEMORY PRESSURE RESISTANCE NIB, MADE EXACTLY AS THE FAMOUS PARKER 75. IT IS MADE IN GERMANY OF THE BEST POSSIBLE MATERIAL."

Dopes anyone know the "patented slide ball tip"? I am not a fountain pen collector -- more an accumulator -- and I can't imagine what a "flex pressure memory resistance nib" could be. Any ideas?

Scroll down a bit, and you will see the "Duke" logo on the nib.

I have a few Dukes, and one will rotate into my work pen tomorrow (Duke "all-white") but I have never noticed anything like "memory pressure resistance".

Hmmmm.
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#30 saintsimon

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 00:59

QUOTE (welch @ Jun 4 2009, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See

http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=280342759879

I wondered what a Phillip Benz Collection pen might be, and I am mightily impressed! The descriptions says, "EACH NIB HAS THE PATENTED SLIDE BALL TIP. A TEMPERED SOLID STEEL POLISHED ALLOY. A TRUE FLEX MEMORY PRESSURE RESISTANCE NIB, MADE EXACTLY AS THE FAMOUS PARKER 75. IT IS MADE IN GERMANY OF THE BEST POSSIBLE MATERIAL."

Dopes anyone know the "patented slide ball tip"? I am not a fountain pen collector -- more an accumulator -- and I can't imagine what a "flex pressure memory resistance nib" could be. Any ideas?

Scroll down a bit, and you will see the "Duke" logo on the nib.

I have a few Dukes, and one will rotate into my work pen tomorrow (Duke "all-white") but I have never noticed anything like "memory pressure resistance".

Hmmmm.


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#31 Gehaha

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 01:34

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:27

"ONLY 180 MADE AND ONLY 177 AVAILABLE"


A "CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY" ISSUED.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:43

The font on the cap band, like his ad, looks like Comic Sans. That's a really serious font. smile.gif
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:43

One of the amazing things about that guy is (at least when having a minor exchange with him via ebay messages), he pretends to take himself seriously. unsure.gif


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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:49

I think I'm going to name my next kid Phillip Benz.

I wonder if the moderators would mind if I started a Phillip Benz fan club here on the board.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 18:43

QUOTE (welch @ Jun 3 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"EACH NIB HAS THE PATENTED SLIDE BALL TIP. A TEMPERED SOLID STEEL POLISHED ALLOY. A TRUE FLEX MEMORY PRESSURE RESISTANCE NIB, MADE EXACTLY AS THE FAMOUS PARKER 75. IT IS MADE IN GERMANY OF THE BEST POSSIBLE MATERIAL."


Oh MAN. I've been LOOKING for one of these.

...wait, no.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 20:20

Who commissioned a pen with the Benz name on it...?

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 20:38

QUOTE (welch @ Jun 3 2009, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See

http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=280342759879

I wondered what a Phillip Benz Collection pen might be, and I am mightily impressed! The descriptions says, "EACH NIB HAS THE PATENTED SLIDE BALL TIP. A TEMPERED SOLID STEEL POLISHED ALLOY. A TRUE FLEX MEMORY PRESSURE RESISTANCE NIB, MADE EXACTLY AS THE FAMOUS PARKER 75. IT IS MADE IN GERMANY OF THE BEST POSSIBLE MATERIAL."

Dopes anyone know the "patented slide ball tip"? I am not a fountain pen collector -- more an accumulator -- and I can't imagine what a "flex pressure memory resistance nib" could be. Any ideas?

Scroll down a bit, and you will see the "Duke" logo on the nib.

I have a few Dukes, and one will rotate into my work pen tomorrow (Duke "all-white") but I have never noticed anything like "memory pressure resistance".

Hmmmm.


That is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever read on FPN.

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