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I was under the impression that the 616 Jumbo is the same size as the standard Parker 51. Can anyone who has both confirm or deny this?

 

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I was under the impression that the 616 Jumbo is the same size as the standard Parker 51. Can anyone who has both confirm or deny this?

 

Thanks

 

Dan

I have both. The diameters are close enough that you can swap caps, although I don't know if the inner caps fit properly. The other dimensions are pretty similar, although I haven't compared them with vernier callipers.

 

 

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Thanks, that's what I thought. Unfortunately, the ones I just received that were supposed to be Jumbos, aren't.

 

Dan

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In a similar vein, is the 616 cap made of stainless steel like on the Hero 329 or is it a plated ultralight material like on the 330?

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The Hero 616 cap is plated, and is not ultralight aluminium like the 330.

 

The clip is magnetic, indicating it's a ferrous material. The main part of the cap is non magnetic, but is too bright to be austenitic stainless steel, so I think it's most likely to be plated brass.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Regards

 

Richard.

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Here are a couple of pics of my 51 and the one of the 616 Jumbos I received. the Parker is the larger, darker one. In the second pic, the caps have been exchanged. I inadvertently changed the relative positions of the pens, but it shouldn't be hard to tell which is which.

 

 

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/T-Caster/P1020075.jpg

 

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l279/T-Caster/P1020078.jpg

 

Dan

 

 

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I had the same thing happen- I wonder if perhaps the size of the so-called 'Jumbo' has changed?

 

The 616 Jumbo, according to a thread here and supported by data from elsewhere on the web had/is supposed to have these dimensions:

 

length uncapped: 127 mm

length capped: 140 (depends on how hard you cap)

length cap posted: 146

barrel diameter: 11

 

Which more or less match a P51. The Hero 616 Jumbos being sold on eBay claim to have a posted length of 5.75", which is consistent with the above measurement of 146mm.

 

The pens I got yesterday have these dimensions:

 

length uncapped: 121 mm

length capped: 134

length cap posted: 139

barrel diameter: 9

 

The person who sold me the Jumbo 616s told me that he had non-jumbo 616s as well, and that they had these measurements:

 

Uncapped: 116mm

Capped: 127mm

Posted: 134mm

barrel diameter: 9mm

 

odd, eh?

 

Aaron

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With regards to the Hero 100, which I understand is their best 51 clone,

(in the $30+ range)

how close is it in length, diameter and weight to the real thing?

Collected ballpoints for decades, found FPN early June

after ordering Pilot BeGreen >70% post-consumer recycled content rollerballs.

Now have Parker Frontier, Pilot 78G, Pelikan M200, Rotring Core,

Reform 1745 from JJBlanche, Hero 616 & 257 from JDlugosz, Pilot Knight & Dux 612.

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Aron---My 51 measures 138mm capped, 153 posted, and barrel diameter is 11 at widest. My 616's are the same measurements as yours. I find them to be too skinny for comfortable use.

 

Dan

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With regards to the Hero 100, which I understand is their best 51 clone,

(in the $30+ range)

how close is it in length, diameter and weight to the real thing?

 

David- I don't have a 51 (yet!), but I do have a Hero 100 (sorta- in the mail back to Todd at iSellPens). From what I understand, the Hero 100 is almost the exact same size as a 51, to the point that you can even swap caps. The Hero 100 is lighter, how much I can't say. I *think* my Hero 100, uninked was about 20 grams.

 

The Hero 100 is a very nice pen for the money. Though I wish the 616s I got were the true Jumbos, they're not bad pens for the money- but the Hero 100 is a much nicer pen, and it shows.

 

Regards,

Aaron

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Hi Aaron,

 

Received and filled my first 616's, 3 of them actually.

Pretty impressed so far.

Not sure I love the aerometric sac, prefer the way piston and slide converters fill.

 

Have you done side-by-side comparison of 616 vs 100 (back from isellpens?) yet?

 

David

 

With regards to the Hero 100, which I understand is their best 51 clone,

(in the $30+ range)

how close is it in length, diameter and weight to the real thing?

 

David- I don't have a 51 (yet!), but I do have a Hero 100 (sorta- in the mail back to Todd at iSellPens). From what I understand, the Hero 100 is almost the exact same size as a 51, to the point that you can even swap caps. The Hero 100 is lighter, how much I can't say. I *think* my Hero 100, uninked was about 20 grams.

 

The Hero 100 is a very nice pen for the money. Though I wish the 616s I got were the true Jumbos, they're not bad pens for the money- but the Hero 100 is a much nicer pen, and it shows.

 

Regards,

Aaron

Collected ballpoints for decades, found FPN early June

after ordering Pilot BeGreen >70% post-consumer recycled content rollerballs.

Now have Parker Frontier, Pilot 78G, Pelikan M200, Rotring Core,

Reform 1745 from JJBlanche, Hero 616 & 257 from JDlugosz, Pilot Knight & Dux 612.

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