Sailor Brush Pen from the Writing Desk

[biffybeans]

http://www.thewritingdesk.co.uk/showproduc...en&cat=pens

 

I found it when I was poking around the Writing Desk... I am quite intrigued. Has anyone use it? Can it take a converter, or only cartridges?

 

 

[hardyb]

The ones I have tried were interesting but very difficult to control for a western writer. They would be pefect for Asian calligraphy and, in a skilled hand, might be magic for western style work. They seemed to work very well and were functionally simple to use, i.e. cartridge filled. I even believe replacement tips (brush heads) are available.

[jmignault]

http://www.thewritingdesk.co.uk/showproduc...en&cat=pens

 

I found it when I was poking around the Writing Desk... I am quite intrigued. Has anyone use it? Can it take a converter, or only cartridges?

 

I have one. It can take a regular Sailor converter. I use it for drawing. I don't like it as much as the Kaimei (my current favorite) or the Kuretake, mainly because I can use Platinum Carbon Black carts with either of those. The Kaimei is also natural hair, so it has a better spring and gets finer lines than the others. Still the Sailor is reasonably priced and it's got a good feel. Swisher sells them as well.

Edited May 9, 2008 by jmignault

[thefsb]

yes. takes carts or converter.

 

i found it entirely uncontrollable. i gave it to a friend who's very good at calligraphy and he couldn't handle it either. and to another friend who knows japanese calligraphy and she couldn't manage it either. but it looks nice enough in my pen pox.

[biffybeans]

Thanks. LOL you've pretty much sold me!

 

 

yes. takes carts or converter.

 

i found it entirely uncontrollable. i gave it to a friend who's very good at calligraphy and he couldn't handle it either. and to another friend who knows japanese calligraphy and she couldn't manage it either. but it looks nice enough in my pen pox.

 

[Splicer]

I know nothing about the Sailor, but I can second the vote for the Kaimei and Kuretake brushpens. Also that the Kaimei are superior to the Kuretake, though the difference is subtle at twice the price, so the Kuretake may be the best bang for your buck.

 

It's like this:

 

Tombow foam brush markers: "this is OK" for USD $3

Pentel brush pen: "hey, this is pretty nice" for USD $12

Kuretake: "Effin' AWESOME" for USD $30-$35

Kaimei: "Totally effin' AWESOME" for USD $60-$80

 

I bought both because I'm the sort that's gotta try 'em all (and yeah, I'll probably get a Sailor too, despite what's been written in this thread), but if you only buy one I'd say go with Kuretake. If you're super-fanatical about your brushes, you'll want the Kaimei, but then you'll probably get one of each anyway, so not much point in recommending.

[Tsujigiri]

I have one, too. I liked the look and the replaceable brush tips on it. It uses c/c fill, but that's Sailor c/c, with a wider opening at the mouth for better ink flow. That means that you have to buy only Sailor brand cartridges and converters for it (unless some other Japanese brands work? I think Platinum's almost fit, but it's probably not worth it. I haven't tried any of the other pens mentioned, so I can't compare, but I do practice Japanese calligraphy. This brush functions well enough, but it's difficult to handle at first. The reason for this is that the nylon brush is springy, and bounces back to its straight shape, whereas a real Japanese Fude will bend and hold its shape as you write. So it depends on what you want to use it for, and how patient you are willing to be. Other than the odd writing characteristics, which aren't much of a problem to me anymore, it's a good pen. It's solidly built, comfotable to hold, and posts well.

[Have Fun]

I have one it is almost identical to the Sailor Script Calligraphy pen in size shape & weight the difference is black colour

I don't use this for oriental calligraphy I bought it as a sketch pen but have not used it much

I bought the Convertor but currently its removed & I filled the barell with water (eye dropper style) to try it with ink wash on sketches. No leaks yet

So it has a variety of uses other than Japanese calligraphy

[thefsb]

jetpens has a bunch of brush calligraphy pens to browse.

[Bar.]

Splicer, I use a couple of Pentel Pocket brush pens and a Kuretake no.85.

I also have a Kuretake No.13 plus a Kaimei inbound as I type. Is it right that both take a Platinum carbon cartridge and is there a risk to the Kaimei's sable tip from that? Also, sorry to be a pain but there's so little Kaimei information available in the UK and no users to ask, do the Kaimei ink cartridges contain waterproof ink or not?

Regards

Rob

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