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#1 lovemy51

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 09:37

Hello everyone!

I decided to do a review on a much underrated pen: The Duke (Chinese made by the Shanghai G. Crown Co. Ltd, registered in Europe as German Duke)

In this case the Dream World FP

Appearance 5/5: The Dream World is a very beautiful pen with a red cloudy cap (too bad in my pictures you can't see the clouds), shiny black body and GP trim. The clip has the name Duke scrolled along with the year it was introduced: 2000. The band reads: Duke Germany GmbH. The construction of the pen is very solid. The cap is a snap cap that has a very nice "snap" but it is easy to take off.

Weight and measurements 3/5: This pen has some heft to it. It is built lacquer over brass cap and barrel. It measures 5 ½" capped and supposedly 6" posted, but this cap does not post at all. Who'd want to post this anyways when it weighs a ton!!! (well maybe a ¼ of a ton) Personally, I don't post my pens that much, unless it's a P"51", but it would be nice to be able to post it just for show, I mean, the cap is beautiful!! So I'll give it 3/5 for that. It does have good balance without the cap posted.

Filling system 3/5: Typical C/C, came with a piston ink converter. I don't expect this pen to have a super filling system but... boring!!

Nib 5/5: The Dream World sports a med GP firm nib that is ssssmooooooth!!! not too wet, it's just right! I could compare it to my P Frontier, which I think is a great writer. I wish I could give you a sample of the writing but my scanner is not working, so you'll have to take my word for it.
The nib is engraved with Duke crown and scroll works; Duke Germany and the year Duke started producing 1889????

Cost 5/5: At $25 USD (shipping included), I think it's darn good! Yes, I know it is made in China (some might have issues with that), but I do recommend this beauty to anyone who wants to have a good looking and fantastic writer for a very affordable price.

Final verdict: 4/5
I own a couple of Dukes. Among them I have the Blue Spider and the Black carbon fiber (?), but the Dream World is my favorite. A couple of years ago I saw it posted at isellpens.com and I don't remember if they had an option with a real gold nib, but that would be something!

Anyways, there it is. Hope you like it and I do apologize for the terrible pictures. If anyone wants to see good shots of the pen visit this site where I bought it (no affiliation): http://www.akideal.c...DreamWorld.html

Edited by lovemy51, 08 May 2008 - 23:10.


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#2 lovemy51

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:15

i figured i post some pic., since akideal (the seller) no longer has the store online.

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Posted 22 July 2008 - 19:26

he's now at Goldquills.com


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Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:57

i tried that site and nothing came on.

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 20:33

WOW, is this a real deal... ???
This Duke is beautiful.. ! And its celluloid? and it's only $21.99..... is this for real? Will this pen look as good in person?

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 20:51

QUOTE (Gawain @ Jul 23 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW, is this a real deal... ???
This Duke is beautiful.. ! And its celluloid? and it's only $21.99..... is this for real? Will this pen look as good in person?

-Gawain



hello gawain,
i own the one in your pic as well. it's pretty and a good writer... when it starts! i changed the point from a Duke pen I had laying around and wasn't gonna use anymore and now it writes great! but i wouldn't buy another of this model. it's call the Mako Shark.

check out this reviw thread about it: http://www.fountainp...showtopic=10164

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 19:26

Thanks Peter Paul.. I appreciate your comments.... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE (lovemy51 @ Jul 23 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Gawain @ Jul 23 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW, is this a real deal... ???
This Duke is beautiful.. ! And its celluloid? and it's only $21.99..... is this for real? Will this pen look as good in person?

-Gawain



hello gawain,
i own the one in your pic as well. it's pretty and a good writer... when it starts! i changed the point from a Duke pen I had laying around and wasn't gonna use anymore and now it writes great! but i wouldn't buy another of this model. it's call the Mako Shark.

check out this reviw thread about it: http://www.fountainp...showtopic=10164


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Posted 25 July 2008 - 20:21

QUOTE (Gawain @ Jul 25 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Peter Paul.. I appreciate your comments.... thumbup.gif

-Gawain

QUOTE (lovemy51 @ Jul 23 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Gawain @ Jul 23 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW, is this a real deal... ???
This Duke is beautiful.. ! And its celluloid? and it's only $21.99..... is this for real? Will this pen look as good in person?

-Gawain



hello gawain,
i own the one in your pic as well. it's pretty and a good writer... when it starts! i changed the point from a Duke pen I had laying around and wasn't gonna use anymore and now it writes great! but i wouldn't buy another of this model. it's call the Mako Shark.

check out this reviw thread about it: http://www.fountainp...showtopic=10164



I paid a bit more for mine... but I purchased it from a well-known pen person, and he checks and fixes the nibs, if necessary, before he sends the pens out. So, it was worth it to me to pay a bit of a premium. I have no doubt this will be a buttery smooth writer and a quick starter when I receive mine.


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 00:25

The problem with the two Duke pens I've had is the weight of the cap, which makes them very unbalanced when posted. Moreover, the bodies are too short for my hand when unposted. So I can't write with them comfortably. Otherwise, they're very nice pens.


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 00:47

Thanks for the review. I don't know, however, what ties this pen to Germany. I just assume that they are putting "Germany" on there in order to make it sound more sophisticated/European. If this is more than a marketing ploy, then I'd like to know. There is an abundance of "iridium Germany" nibs out there that are completely Chinese made and have nothing to do with Germany whatsoever.
If you got a good nib, then I am glad for you. It varies a lot with Chinese pens. Usually, though, real German nibs are better (Schmidt, Bock etc...) in my experience.

Edited by omasfan, 26 July 2008 - 00:49.


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 02:17

QUOTE (omasfan @ Jul 25 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the review. I don't know, however, what ties this pen to Germany. I just assume that they are putting "Germany" on there in order to make it sound more sophisticated/European. If this is more than a marketing ploy, then I'd like to know. There is an abundance of "iridium Germany" nibs out there that are completely Chinese made and have nothing to do with Germany whatsoever.
If you got a good nib, then I am glad for you. It varies a lot with Chinese pens. Usually, though, real German nibs are better (Schmidt, Bock etc...) in my experience.


i don't know the ties to germany. hmm1.gif as far as i'm concern it's chinese!!! they do say "duke germany" on them, but when i bought it, i tell you, in my mind i was getting a good chinese pen. my reference to germany was merely quoting the seller.

this nib is nice, chinese or german!! now... i noticed Hisnibs has this pen with a 14k nib... i don't know if i wanna spend $100 on that. for $25 USD, what i paid for mine, i'm happy!

... man, i don't think i own a real gold german nib!!!! bawl.gif

Edited by lovemy51, 26 July 2008 - 02:18.


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 02:21

QUOTE (Reginleif @ Jul 25 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid a bit more for mine... but I purchased it from a well-known pen person, and he checks and fixes the nibs, if necessary, before he sends the pens out. So, it was worth it to me to pay a bit of a premium. I have no doubt this will be a buttery smooth writer and a quick starter when I receive mine.


hi reginleif,
i think the problem with this nib (Mako) is that dryes cos' the air sips thru the clip!!!

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 02:35

QUOTE (lovemy51 @ Jul 25 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Reginleif @ Jul 25 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid a bit more for mine... but I purchased it from a well-known pen person, and he checks and fixes the nibs, if necessary, before he sends the pens out. So, it was worth it to me to pay a bit of a premium. I have no doubt this will be a buttery smooth writer and a quick starter when I receive mine.


hi reginleif,
i think the problem with this nib (Mako) is that dryes cos' the air sips thru the clip!!!


Those gills in the cap are pretend, no air flow. Apologies if I'm being too literal headsmack.gif . Sometimes the humor is so dry on this forum. Anyway, the cap on my Mako is so airtight that I often have trouble posting it. Darn thing pushes back. I have had the nib dry out but I found that I had not completely clicked the cap closed. I've recently added the drop of dishwashing detergent to the converter but haven't refilled to see whether that helps the drying. Could just be that the nib is so big and takes in so much air that it dries out quickly. When it does flow it's nice and smooth. And yes, I bought it from His Nibs so he took great care with the nib.

Cheers!

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 03:05

QUOTE (patfia @ Jul 25 2008, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (lovemy51 @ Jul 25 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Reginleif @ Jul 25 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid a bit more for mine... but I purchased it from a well-known pen person, and he checks and fixes the nibs, if necessary, before he sends the pens out. So, it was worth it to me to pay a bit of a premium. I have no doubt this will be a buttery smooth writer and a quick starter when I receive mine.


hi reginleif,
i think the problem with this nib (Mako) is that dryes cos' the air sips thru the clip!!!


Those gills in the cap are pretend, no air flow. Apologies if I'm being too literal headsmack.gif . Sometimes the humor is so dry on this forum. Anyway, the cap on my Mako is so airtight that I often have trouble posting it. Darn thing pushes back. I have had the nib dry out but I found that I had not completely clicked the cap closed. I've recently added the drop of dishwashing detergent to the converter but haven't refilled to see whether that helps the drying. Could just be that the nib is so big and takes in so much air that it dries out quickly. When it does flow it's nice and smooth. And yes, I bought it from His Nibs so he took great care with the nib.

Cheers!


hi patfia,
i was almost positive the cap wasn't air tight. i blew air thru the mouth of the cap and i can feel air coming out the clip and viceversa. check out this thread, this is where i found out what the problem was: http://www.fountainp...showtopic=10164

after i sealed the clip it got better... not a 100% fixed

now, i agree that the nib is too big, hence the reason why i switched the nib (as i explained before) and now i have a smaller one that works better!!!... you could be right!!


PS. ha ha ha!!! about the gills thing!


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 15:58

In March 2008, I spent 2 weeks in Tianjin, China. Always on the look out for pens, I asked my host about fountain pens. He mentioned that the most well known pen brand in China was Hero pens. Out looking on my own and knowing very little Chinese I found a great pen shop.

I bought 2 Duke Germany pens. One was the Duke 116. It had a Black cap and a Red barrel with Carbon Fibre in the red barrel. The other was a Duke 992 in a Brown, tortoise look. They were both about $14 US apiece. Both are beautiful pens. They are a good size and write great. On one of the pens, it seemed like the cartridge converter was stuck, so i just left it in and used bottle ink.

I also bought a Hero 9101. It was Polished Steel with a carved/etched intricate design. Looks Silver. Very hefty and this was about $40 US.

Regrettably, my digital camera is in repair. If there is interest I will take a picture when I get my camera back.

I will be going back to China in October and will definitely visit the pen shop again.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 17:39

QUOTE (framos917 @ Jul 26 2008, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In March 2008, I spent 2 weeks in Tianjin, China. Always on the look out for pens, I asked my host about fountain pens. He mentioned that the most well known pen brand in China was Hero pens. Out looking on my own and knowing very little Chinese I found a great pen shop.

I bought 2 Duke Germany pens. One was the Duke 116. It had a Black cap and a Red barrel with Carbon Fibre in the red barrel. The other was a Duke 992 in a Brown, tortoise look. They were both about $14 US apiece. Both are beautiful pens. They are a good size and write great. On one of the pens, it seemed like the cartridge converter was stuck, so i just left it in and used bottle ink.

I also bought a Hero 9101. It was Polished Steel with a carved/etched intricate design. Looks Silver. Very hefty and this was about $40 US.

Regrettably, my digital camera is in repair. If there is interest I will take a picture when I get my camera back.

I will be going back to China in October and will definitely visit the pen shop again.


I'll be in TianJin in November, so would you mind telling me the address of the pen shop you found?
Thanks!
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 18:48

QUOTE (framos917 @ Jul 26 2008, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Regrettably, my digital camera is in repair. If there is interest I will take a picture when I get my camera back.


Yes, I'd certainly like to see them, if it's not too much trouble?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 23:16

Who would that be, if you don't mind me asking?

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QUOTE (Reginleif @ Jul 25 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid a bit more for mine... but I purchased it from a well-known pen person, and he checks and fixes the nibs, if necessary, before he sends the pens out. So, it was worth it to me to pay a bit of a premium. I have no doubt this will be a buttery smooth writer and a quick starter when I receive mine.


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 01:33

QUOTE (Gawain @ Jul 23 2008, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW, is this a real deal... ???
This Duke is beautiful.. ! And its celluloid? and it's only $21.99..... is this for real? Will this pen look as good in person?

-Gawain




You betcha, Gawain. It's a steal. Postage & box cost $3.00, so you get this pen for $19 in actuality. My Greek Key metalwork looked perfect under 10x!! And--I have no connection with any seller or dealer.

I'm ordering this Green Shark next; it it's as good as the Greek Key--Duke has a lifetime customer and giver of "Duke gifts" at Xmas...Probably some Greedhead store chain will get hold of Duke, and start pumping the prices... lticaptd.gif

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 02:27

QUOTE (Gawain @ Jul 26 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who would that be, if you don't mind me asking?

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QUOTE (Reginleif @ Jul 25 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I paid a bit more for mine... but I purchased it from a well-known pen person, and he checks and fixes the nibs, if necessary, before he sends the pens out. So, it was worth it to me to pay a bit of a premium. I have no doubt this will be a buttery smooth writer and a quick starter when I receive mine.



Gawain,
Hisnibs.com checks nibs before sending out. I received a very nice note with my Mako and Blue Spyder. There may be others as well.






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