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#21 eric47

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:09

I have the same catalogue and I think it's from 1938. Extra Lucens models are all without the AS circles symbol on the cap.


:hmm1: Hi Letizia, do you mean "Lucens" (and not "Extra Lucens") are all without the AS in a circle on the cap? Many (maybe all???) of the Extra Lucens have the AS, no?

On Yuri's pen under the clip you can make out an oval with some writing inside. I've seen some pens like that, and I have an Ogival shaped Extra like that. Mine's from a store in Rome (I forgot the name), and Yuri's is from La Stilografica in Bologna. I assume it was somewhat common back then to mark the pens with a type of store advertisement?

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 12:13

yes on the cap there are the stamp of the "La Stilografica Bologna", probably this pen was sold by this shop.

This pen is not the real first model of Lucens, because this ones had a total black blind cap like the one that Labeo post in his pictures, instead mine have a blind cap alredy colored like the pen body.

But the thing that become this pen super rare is, over the delicate clear celluloid, the blue color that is one of the more difficult to find.

Yes the ring are really esy to repair, it needs to fix a little crack on the barrel near the plunger filler because in a old restore probebly to change the seals, it have this little damage.

I'm sure that Sampei do an amazing work on my pens lika all the other that restore for me... I suggest him for repair and restore old and precious pens...


I've seen some other auctions for vintage Omas pens from La Stilografica. I didn't notice the difference with the plunger knobs, thanks for pointing that out. I've never seen in real life the blue or even an auction/ad for one.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 17:03

I've seen some other auctions for vintage Omas pens from La Stilografica. I didn't notice the difference with the plunger knobs, thanks for pointing that out. I've never seen in real life the blue or even an auction/ad for one.


I think that this mark on the cap are made by Omas for their better customer... and this shop on Bologna probably are one of these...!! Have you some other information about this mark..??

About the blue color it is one of the most rare to find... the man that sold me this pen isn't a collector and have this pen from his father: 10 or 15 years ago he sent the pen directly to Omas center for have a complete restore and the responsible who speak with him said that in the last 30 years (the time that this responsible works for Omas) only 2-3 pieces like this was restored by them, and this one is the better that he ever seen. :yikes:

Naturally a lot of vintage pen don't pass on the official Omas service, but this information is enough to say the rarity of this piece... and I'm very lucky to paid it a really good amount....
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#24 eric47

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 14:34

I think that this mark on the cap are made by Omas for their better customer... and this shop on Bologna probably are one of these...!! Have you some other information about this mark..??


I'm pretty sure it's a mark for a shop in Bologna that may or may not still be there. There is a shop there now called "La Stilografica" but I'm not sure whether it's the one that bears the historical connection to the one on the pen. I make some inquiries to see if I can get the scoop on it.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 14:13

What a stunning pen Juri
I can't wait to see what it looks like when it is repaired.
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#26 eric47

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 17:07

I think that this mark on the cap are made by Omas for their better customer... and this shop on Bologna probably are one of these...!! Have you some other information about this mark..??


I'm pretty sure it's a mark for a shop in Bologna that may or may not still be there. There is a shop there now called "La Stilografica" but I'm not sure whether it's the one that bears the historical connection to the one on the pen. I make some inquiries to see if I can get the scoop on it.


OK, I made some inquiries and got the scoop. Indeed the stamp refers to a shop in Bologna called "La Stilografica" (or the official registered name might have been "Germano La Stilografica") which until last year was located on Via Orefici in the center of Bologna, off of Piazza Maggiore. They closed up shop around Christmas time last year.

Actually, turns out there is some information in Letizia's book under "Germano" in Vol. I, p. 257.
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Posted 18 April 2010 - 17:30

I think that this mark on the cap are made by Omas for their better customer... and this shop on Bologna probably are one of these...!! Have you some other information about this mark..??


I'm pretty sure it's a mark for a shop in Bologna that may or may not still be there. There is a shop there now called "La Stilografica" but I'm not sure whether it's the one that bears the historical connection to the one on the pen. I make some inquiries to see if I can get the scoop on it.


OK, I made some inquiries and got the scoop. Indeed the stamp refers to a shop in Bologna called "La Stilografica" (or the official registered name might have been "Germano La Stilografica") which until last year was located on Via Orefici in the center of Bologna, off of Piazza Maggiore. They closed up shop around Christmas time last year.

Actually, turns out there is some information in Letizia's book under "Germano" in Vol. I, p. 257.


Hi Eric,
you are a great researcher!
Actually the shop "La stilografica" in Via Orefici in Bologna,was one of the most ancient pen shops in Italy had a very intense commercial relationship with the Omas factory. Gian Stefano Germano was born in 1935 and when I met him for the first time (1988) I remained flabbergasted by his pen knowledge. My father used to buy vintage pens in his shop whenever he went to Bologna on business (... and this is how my story begins...). Germano was one of the forerunners for Pen books in Italy. He wrote e nice book whose title is "Storia Universale della Stilografica" (universal history of fountain pens), published in 1991 by Calderini.
As regards the circle below the clip, you often find it with imprints like "La Stilogrqafica" ( Bologna) or "Accossano" (Rome), it was a kind of personalization of Omas standard models some official Omas retailers could have.
As Regards instead the A.S. initials into the small circle placed on the cap ( below the clip) of Extra Lucens models, that was introduced in 1939 and not every Extra Lucens model has it. Check Emilio Dolcini's book.

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 07:38

Hi Eric,
you are a great researcher!


Nah! If I was such a great researcher, I would have looked up the info on the A/S on the Extra Lucens pens myself to verify what I remember -- whether in Dolcini's or your books. Far from the world of academia now, I've become a pigrone. :ltcapd:

Thanks for the addition information about Gian Stefano Germano.

I'm sorry that I did not have my camera with me the last few times I was in Bologna. They had a really cool sign that was perpendicular to the store front -- so you saw the sign as you walked down the sidewalk. It may have even been lit at night. If I recall correctly the sign had "Omas" and a faceted Omas FP. Maybe it's still there, I don't know.
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Posted 09 June 2012 - 19:59

Hello

1980's catalogue on page #4, model 8321 - is anyone able to make out the numbers before the words OMAS 557-F ?

I just bought an Omas 557-F, and it seems identical to this. On the barrel is stamped 5693 OMAS 557-F ... it has a 585 two tone medium(according to box) nib, which is a very juicy and flexible.

Love the pen, just trying to date it.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:32

The early 557-F and 557-S (probably the first and maybe second year pens) had rolling serial numbers engraved on the pen. So that is what the 5693 indicates, a serial and not a model number. Rolling serial number, not indicative of a limited edition. They stopped putting numbers on the own after awhile, and they have changed the barrel engraving too. Later you see 'Omas Extra'. The pens with 557-F should be Paragons, note the rings in the barrel. The Gentlemen lacks those rings on the barrel, and early pens had 'Gentleman' on the barrel.

Stipula did the same thing with rolling serial numbers for awhile on the Etrurias.

As for the date of the pen, it's an early pen in the modern Arte Italiana series released in the 1980s. I can't remember the year.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:00

The early 557-F and 557-S (probably the first and maybe second year pens) had rolling serial numbers engraved on the pen. So that is what the 5693 indicates, a serial and not a model number. Rolling serial number, not indicative of a limited edition. They stopped putting numbers on the own after awhile, and they have changed the barrel engraving too. Later you see 'Omas Extra'. The pens with 557-F should be Paragons, note the rings in the barrel. The Gentlemen lacks those rings on the barrel, and early pens had 'Gentleman' on the barrel.

Stipula did the same thing with rolling serial numbers for awhile on the Etrurias.

As for the date of the pen, it's an early pen in the modern Arte Italiana series released in the 1980s. I can't remember the year.


Hi Eric47

Thank you very much for your reply and insight.

It is great to know a little bit more about this pen. For a 1980's model it behaves great, like it was made yesterday.
It is also interesting to note that Omas did not mark the nib width on the nib. Only on the box, as Montblanc does today.
Also, for the age of the pen, the piston filler works great.

Once again, thank you for your wisdom.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:44

It is also interesting to note that Omas did not mark the nib width on the nib. Only on the box, as Montblanc does today.


Right, I forgot about that. Indeed, early nibs had no markings on the nib. I'm pretty sure there might have been little round stickers on the pens indicating nib size -- but I can't be sure, I might be confusing it with another brand. Another an early Arte Italiana thing, they started to engrave the nib size on the side/shoulder of the nib, a practice which continues today.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 00:04

Here's my burgandy Lucens - I tried hard to get the transparency - it is darkened, but you can see that it has good Lucens quality.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:38

@daynix -- very nice indeed!

While we're at it, could you please explain why is there a small hole in the cap? I've seen it in other pens as well.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:59

@daynix -- very nice indeed!

While we're at it, could you please explain why is there a small hole in the cap? I've seen it in other pens as well.


Indeed, daynix, super pen.

The hole is a breather hole. See here.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 15:03

Original transparency in Lucens pens?

Just ask!

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 16:03

Original transparency in Lucens pens?

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Fantastic Pics!! The transparency is wonderful!
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 18:52

Darn. Another batch of penporn. :puddle:


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 13:58

This thread is incredibly helpful, especially to those of us new to Italian makers. I'd love to see it pinned.

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 10:26

Many thanks for your work, it is a wealth of knowledge, and for me very very good because i'm in quest of my Graal....( 557-F/OBD )
( sorry for my English writting)

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