Jump to content

Converting Big Red BP to a FP


benB

Recommended Posts

This kind of thing is such fun.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 53
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • ac12

    10

  • pajaro

    8

  • usk15

    6

  • jcfiguet

    5

Top Posters In This Topic

This idea of converting the Big Red rollerball has me "hooked." But I suspect I am not really going to be happy with the Cross nib when I prefer larger sized nibs (stubs.) Since I am already creating my own "Frankenpen" is it possible to

 

(1.) purchase the Cross Solo pen to acquire the "nib unit" to use in the Big Red

 

( 2.) THEN order a replacement nib from Goulets to replace the Cross nib? This is the part that I am unsure about because I doubt they will be very knowledgable about a pen that is discontinued & they only recently began offering the Cross line. Would a #6 nib fit? If the Sonnet's nib fit it seems like something else would surely work but I don't know what to ask for.

 

The Goulet nibs are pretty nice for $15.00( but they are only available in the #6 size) & Amazon has a Solo for $25. (+ shipping) so if this would work it would be nice see the pen find some use for not a lot of money. I appreciate any suggestions and thank you for whatever thoughts you have.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Solo on Amazon (if it is the same one that I looked at) is a Japanese F nib. I passed on that because of the nib size.

Although if you are going to swap the nib out, then it makes no difference what is in the pen. Unless the feed is different for the different nib sizes.

Edited by ac12

San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Cross Solo nib and section can work without problem, but the Cross Solo section doesn't look like the Duofold sections nor the Big Red sections...

 

Sections differences :
http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/compare-big_red.jpg

Edited by jcfiguet

"Opinions are meant to be changed or how is the truth to be got at"

 

Lord Byron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Solo section in the Big Red ballpoint barrel looks better with a Parker nib. The 18K rhodium plated Sonnet medium nib works with the steel furniture of the Big Red.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

HEY IT WORKED !!!

 

I just picked up a Cross Solo and the section screwed right into the Parker barrel like it was made for it.

I just gotta remember that the pen has a Cross section, not a Parker section. So I won't try to put a Parker cartridge/converter into the pen.

 

Thanks guys.

Edited by ac12

San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I did the same thing and was thrilled with it. I did manage to buy the Cross with a broad nib though and it is a fine and wonderful pen. Only sad I didn't get to give it (again as a fountain pen) to my dad. <3


 It's for Yew!bastardchildlil.jpg

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Sections differences :http://www.jcfiguet.com/images/Ebay/compare-big_red.jpg

Which section did you use to add the iridium nib?

 

What kind of mods were done to the cap and barrel to accommodate the nib and converter?

 

I've been using a modified Sheaffer No-Nonsense nib and section for mine, but am curious about other options aside from that or the Solo.

Edited by spaceink
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Which section did you use to add the iridium nib?

 

What kind of mods were done to the cap and barrel to accommodate the nib and converter?

 

I've been using a modified Sheaffer No-Nonsense nib and section for mine, but am curious about other options aside from that or the Solo.

 

4 type of sections "Duofold look" are avaliable with exactly same appearence :

 

1°) Sections from Chinese unbranded fountain pens for IPG nibs

 

2°) Rosetta Sections specialy made for Jowo nibs

 

3°) Rosetta Sections specialy made for Schmid nibs

 

4°) Modified Rosetta Sections for Jowo or Schmidt nibs for other nibs like Bock, Parker Sonnet, etc... But Chinese unbranded sections can be used for some nibs like MB146. In fact it's depending of the nib thickness and in that case a good adjustement is needed for a good ink flow.

"Opinions are meant to be changed or how is the truth to be got at"

 

Lord Byron

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

What kind of mods were done to the cap and barrel to accommodate the nib and converter?

I've been using a modified Sheaffer No-Nonsense nib and section for mine, but am curious about other options aside from that or the Solo.

 

Nothing was done to the pen for the Cross Solo section/nib.

- The cap just screws right on, does not touch the Cross nib.

- Similarly, the body slides right over the converter and screws onto the section.

 

What did you modify on the Sheaffer NN section to make it fit the BR bp?

San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awesome, thanks for the rundown. Going to try out that route.

 

For the Sheaffer nib, I sanded away the lower threads until it fit and there was no gap between the section and barrel.

 

My usual converters often prove too long for the Big Red barrel. I shortened one and fitted that on a Sheaffer cartridge end, in order to get a converter that fits. Most times I usually use and reuse short international cartridges, which I've found to fit well on the No Nonsense nib nipple.

Edited by spaceink
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Solo on Amazon (if it is the same one that I looked at) is a Japanese F nib. I passed on that because of the nib size.

Although if you are going to swap the nib out, then it makes no difference what is in the pen. Unless the feed is different for the different nib sizes.

I had asked the seller (Jma3153) if a "broad" nib was available & he replied that indeed there was. I ordered, it was received this morning & indeed it is a successful "marriage" between Big Red & Solo. Sadly the gold plated nib would be nicer if it were only steel to match the trim on the BR but the trim only exists on the cap so after removal it certainly doesn't bother me. I recently ordered a steel nib to use on a Twsbi Micarta because I felt the nib suited the pen better even IF it has a "gold" plated clip. Neither of these pens will be candidates for "Pen Shows" so I am the only one they need please.

 

My happiness in making this pen marriage/conversion is only surpassed by the willingness of this Amazon seller who responded to an inquiry & hence made this possible. Amazing when an "online seller" (thru Amazon) proves that "service" is possible from many sources & not only from the traditional "brick & mortar" dealers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My Big Red and Cross Solo:

 

 

14747963543_ec311ebe4e_c.jpg

 

 

15232416298_c99edbdd70_c.jpg

 

I really like that Queen's Jubilee pen.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had asked the seller (Jma3153) if a "broad" nib was available & he replied that indeed there was. I ordered, it was received this morning & indeed it is a successful "marriage" between Big Red & Solo. Sadly the gold plated nib would be nicer if it were only steel to match the trim on the BR but the trim only exists on the cap so after removal it certainly doesn't bother me. I recently ordered a steel nib to use on a Twsbi Micarta because I felt the nib suited the pen better even IF it has a "gold" plated clip. Neither of these pens will be candidates for "Pen Shows" so I am the only one they need please.

 

My happiness in making this pen marriage/conversion is only surpassed by the willingness of this Amazon seller who responded to an inquiry & hence made this possible. Amazing when an "online seller" (thru Amazon) proves that "service" is possible from many sources & not only from the traditional "brick & mortar" dealers.

 

A Sonnet steel or 18K rhodium plated nib will fit in the Solo section with the Solo feed. This opens your options up to some different types of nib.

Edited by pajaro

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

I really like that Queen's Jubilee pen.

 

 

Thank you! It's limited edition, nice dark blue pen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

I contacted the ebay seller (http://stores.ebay.fr/Mzombar-Store/) during last week and I bought a green Parker/Ad Pen converted to Fountain Pen. It works perfectly. I think I will change the nib, because I prefere the FH452 Schmidt which is a bit more flexible.

 

 

I don't understand the pen "Parker/Ad Pen"

It is the Ad part that confuses me.

I like the silver nib. It matches the chrome trim on the pen better than the gold nib on the Cross Solo.

San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

My Big Red and Cross Solo:

 

 

14747963543_ec311ebe4e_c.jpg

 

 

15232416298_c99edbdd70_c.jpg

 

 

I like how the gold Cross nib matches the gold trim on the pen.

 

ooooo an E-type. Never mind the pen, I want the car.

San Francisco Pen Show - August 28-30, 2020 - Redwood City, California

www.SFPenShow.com

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

I don't understand the pen "Parker/Ad Pen"

It is the Ad part that confuses me.

 

 

I think it was called AD Pen because it was meant for advertising. Check the EBay to see many of them has some company's logo.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

 

I like how the gold Cross nib matches the gold trim on the pen.

 

ooooo an E-type. Never mind the pen, I want the car.

 

:D

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33580
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26770
    5. jar
      jar
      26105
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...