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Filling A Visconti Ragtime


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#1 HisNHers

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 05:28

I have a Visconti Ragtime with the piston filler. The Visconti website shows that when filling this pen, the cover at the bottom of the barrel should be completely removed to reveal a screw mechanism. On this piece the cover can't be removed completely, and I don't want to force it in case the information from the Visconti site is incorrect.

The reservoir does fill and empty as it should while screwing and unscrewing this cover, although it can't be removed completely.

On this pen, is this cover supposed to be completely removed? If so, then I guess the pen just needs a good soaking in warm water to loosen the cover.

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EDIT: Correction: This was not Version 1 of the Ragtime. It was the "new" version, which I believe was released in the mid-90s.

Edited by HisNHers, 05 October 2007 - 13:40.


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Posted 05 October 2007 - 05:41

If it works, don't break it.
Yours seems to work like the Pelikan piston knob, so leave it that way. Visconti made so many different filling systems, sometimes their website misstates the system of a given pen.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 16:04

QUOTE(saintsimon @ Oct 4 2007, 10:41 PM) View Post
If it works, don't break it.
Yours seems to work like the Pelikan piston knob, so leave it that way. Visconti made so many different filling systems, sometimes their website misstates the system of a given pen.


Thanks for your help. We have a few Viscontis (Ragtime, PonteVecchio and Titanic LE), and I've noticed other errors on their web site.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 17:15

My Renaiscimento stays on as well. Ignore their directions and just twist the cap while it stays on the piston. I don't know why they put incorrect instructions with their pens.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 22:25

Hi, even if it's too late for a response; I have a Visconti Ragtime, in celluloid, and the bottom of the pen must be removed completely to fill the pen. It must be unscrewed and then put off. Under it there is the screw mechanism like a Pelikan...
Hope this help...

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 12:44

QUOTE (RoccoDT @ Mar 25 2009, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi, even if it's too late for a response; I have a Visconti Ragtime, in celluloid, and the bottom of the pen must be removed completely to fill the pen. It must be unscrewed and then put off. Under it there is the screw mechanism like a Pelikan...
Hope this help...

For "completeness" of the thread.

Almost all "Ragtimes" have a removable blind cap for accessing the piston knob. These include: Original Ragtime (aka Ragtime I), Caravel, Stagoni/Seasons, Ragtime Black & Medici (aka Ragtime III), and 20th Anniversary.

The exceptions are the New Ragtime (aka Ragtime II) and Federico II, where the cap/knob at the end of the pen is the piston knob (like a Pelikan or Omas).
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 01:58

Sorry to go off on a tangent here, but it seems like the Ragtime is being sold with deep discounts at many places. I wonder why? Too many copies for an LE? The pictures don't do it justice? Is the pen too small by any chance? Is it just the economy?

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 03:15

It's very narrow for a Visconti pen and the one I tested at a trunk show didn't post. Think Shaeffer Targa and you'll know why a lover of larger pens won't get one.

I suspect they were overpriced for what they offer.

Looks like Visconti got delusions of Montblanc on their latest pricing and the market is giving them a reality check. Just like their Metropolis sans gordian knot didn't move. Too expensive for what you got. Nice pens, but the price point needed to be below $300.

Now their Bible series LEs are the price of a nice used car. Has stopped my buying cold.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 16:56

QUOTE (Ghost Plane @ Apr 22 2009, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's very narrow for a Visconti pen and the one I tested at a trunk show didn't post.


"narrow for a Visconti" hmm1.gif Didn't test with calipers, but it's pretty much as wide as the Ragtime II on which it's based, along with the Classics, Replicas, D'Essais, Ragtime I, Caravels, Seasons, and Pontevechios to name a few. Certainly though narrow compared to the Voyager, Divine/a, and Squaring-the-circle lines. No Van Goghs here so I can't say anything.

In fact, because it's overall size (length and girth) and balanced weight are why I have one...and I'm a sucker for Ragtimes.

QUOTE (Ghost Plane @ Apr 22 2009, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now their Bible series LEs are the price of a nice used car. Has stopped my buying cold.

If you're looking a Visconti wide-body, this probably takes the prize. The diameter is probably a little less than 1". It's like having the big fat kids' chalk or a runner's baton in your hand. Along with being priced out of my league, it's ridiculously sized. Have you seen one in person?

Edited by eric47, 22 April 2009 - 16:58.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 17:13

QUOTE (Ghost Plane @ Apr 22 2009, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... the one I tested at a trunk show didn't post.


Hey, wait a minute! Do the new Ragtime LEs not post?...

In answer to the OP: I suspect the metal section also has something to do with the latest model not selling.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 17:24

QUOTE (QM2 @ Apr 22 2009, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ghost Plane @ Apr 22 2009, 05:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... the one I tested at a trunk show didn't post.


Hey, wait a minute! Do the new Ragtime LEs not post?...

Hey just answered you in ad.

Mine does. But I find it way too top-heavy posted for my tastes -- like the Ragtime I and IIs. I write with it unposted -- balance point seems dead center.

Just noticed, the top-heaviness posted is probably worse with the LE because the cap has the My Visconti system, which makes the LE cap heavier than the old ones.

I think the metal section is there to balance the weight of the filling system on the LE. The knob and probably other things are made of metal (not plastic like the originals) -- you can feel the weight in the back of the pen.

I don't have any of my Ragtime IIs now, but if I recall the LE is dimensionally pretty close to the Ragtime II with exception of the overall weight: The LE barrel and cap are heavier. But it's extremely well-balanced unposted.

Edited by eric47, 22 April 2009 - 17:29.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 17:36

No one touched upon this point: is the pen stunning when seen in person or is it just OK? smile.gif

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 17:56

QUOTE (Stylo @ Apr 22 2009, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one touched upon this point: is the pen stunning when seen in person or is it just OK? smile.gif

Well, it's as stunning as Ragtime Acriloyd can be. lticaptd.gif

Let's try it this way, it looks better in person than it does in the photos because the light catches the gold dust. Mine has a lot of gold in it; the pattern is swirly and it looks turned from a single bar -- I don't see a seam. I believe no two are alike -- so some might be more interesting than others. It's not bad for what it is. I like it, but you may not. People have such different tastes.

If I sound a little down/negative about it, I'm having a hard time judging it on its own merits. I'm looking at it next to a number of old Viscontis made from vintage celluloid -- those are stunning. smile.gif

Edited by eric47, 22 April 2009 - 18:00.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 18:01

Now I'm a fan of BIG pens. The LEs are comfortable in my hand for marathon sessions. Picked up the Bible series when Ken Jones was thru here on a trunk show and I'd love that size [I adore my MB 149], but the price! yikes.gif wallbash.gif

The Ragtime runs narrower than is comfortable for me. Just preference. I like fat, long pens. My Van Gogh Maxis run 7 inches posted and are nicely wide. Anything narrower and I tend not to use them.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 19:11

QUOTE (Ghost Plane @ Apr 22 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I'm a fan of BIG pens. The LEs are comfortable in my hand for marathon sessions. Picked up the Bible series when Ken Jones was thru here on a trunk show and I'd love that size [I adore my MB 149], but the price! yikes.gif wallbash.gif

The Ragtime runs narrower than is comfortable for me. Just preference. I like fat, long pens. My Van Gogh Maxis run 7 inches posted and are nicely wide. Anything narrower and I tend not to use them.

O.k. our tastes tend to opposite ends of the spectrum. smile.gif

I tend to write unposted, and I don't mind narrower pens. As long as I find the section comfortable and the pen isn't too heavy or top-heavy (unposted), I can write with a pen (big or small) in long sessions.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 22:46

I have the Anniverary set. The case is very nice, and the golddust material absolutely stunning.
The nib writes smoothly. And yet....
Holding it, it feels cheap. The clip is just a thin sheet of metal and the metal section just is not right. Would have liked the clip like on the WallStreet LE.
If you fill the BP en the RB with Visconti original refills, you will have a good writing experience. I think they are much better than the Parker originals (interchangeable)

So good writers, stunning colour, but the metalwork ruins the overal pleasure.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 00:36

QUOTE (Stylo @ Apr 21 2009, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to go off on a tangent here, but it seems like the Ragtime is being sold with deep discounts at many places. I wonder why? Too many copies for an LE? The pictures don't do it justice? Is the pen too small by any chance? Is it just the economy?

I've seen many collectible pens now being sold at deep discounts -- not just the Ragtime LE -- and I suspect that it has to do with the economy. As to the Ragtime LE, I wasn't too keen on it, based on (pre-released) photos. Being a fan of semi-vintage Ragtimes, I decide to have a look-see, in person. It still didn't appeal to me. It's all subjective -- but as QM2 has already pointed out, it's mostly the metal section. I also found the pen too heavy for my taste.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:08

QUOTE (girlieg33k @ Apr 22 2009, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've seen many collectible pens now being sold at deep discounts -- not just the Ragtime LE -- and I suspect that it has to do with the economy.

You make a good point. Actually, I think the pen companies got really caught going against the economic current. Over the last 2-3 years, I assume they decided to really cash in on the growing interest in FPs and they started to steadily increase prices. There are of course other reasons for the price hikes, such as the dollar exchange rate. But the MSRPs of pens like the Duofold and Auroloid Optima, among others, shot up to $400-600! Worse, many authorized retailers suddenly seemed pressured not to advertise discounts. You have to email them or go through gimmicks like putting the pen in the shopping cart to see the actual price. Visconti and even Cross seem to have become guilty of this.

In the last six months, they started getting pushed back by the economy and they will hopefully come back down to earth. Just a few months ago, even the BEST authorized discounter I know could get me an International Pearl and Black Duofold only for over $320 and closer to $400 for the Centennial, because Parker had seriously jacked up the prices (MSRPs of $525 and 575 headsmack.gif ) Well, I got my Check Duofold with the same MSRP for just under $200, a far less delusional price that Parker thinks can charge. I can wait cool.gif

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:24

QUOTE (RMN @ Apr 23 2009, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Holding it, it feels cheap. The clip is just a thin sheet of metal...Would have liked the clip like on the WallStreet LE.

That double-collar clip is probably the historic defining feature of the Ragtime. The LE has the thin S-curved version which was used on almost all the various Ragtimes -- exceptions are the Caravels and probably the very earliest Ragtimes.

Put the curved "bridge" clip from the Wall St. on it, and it just wouldn't be a Ragtime.
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