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#1 FarmBoy

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:24

Again, I'll start by saying no pens were harmed that were repairable. (A 51 Vac filler underwent this treatment last week and can be found in the Parker forum.)

This J came to me for repair--the pen got into a fight with a car door and lost resulting in a crushed and cracked barrel. Not being willing to dispose of the barrel, it went into the parts bin and was forgotten. Yesterday, the barrel followed me into the machine shop and a short while later we had a cutaway version showing the assembly of the inside components.

This pen is fully functional and would write should one choose to do so. The sac is an original with ESTERBROOK stenciled very lightly on the surface.
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The same pen with the sac depressed ready for a slurp of ink.

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#2 Brian Anderson

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 15:14

Very nice. Not too far off what the factory did with cutaway demos. That might be a cool pen to take to work. Sure would be a great conversation starter!

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 17:25

Nice........

It would be nice to possibly add to penpedia (Quicksilver jump in here) to show how the pen looks and works!!
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:37

I saw Farmboy's pen at the Pan Pacific Pen Club mtg today, and since I'm still trying to figure out the mechanics of pens before I attempt any repairs myself, his cutaway pen really helped. Thanks, Todd, for the hands-on look at your cutaway Estie and for your pen repair tutorial after the mtg.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 01:10

Thanks for the photos. A closer look in the leverless pen sure enough showed the lever ring. Thanks for solving the problem for me (and others I suspect.)

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:24

Just a quick question,

The little plastic "tray" that holds the ink sac. That's something you modified or is that part of the original part.

Thanks.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:30

Hi,

The tray is part of the original pen. Esterbrook put that in so that they could use the same sacs across their product line (Or that's what I was told.)

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 08:30

Thank you for the photo tour of the pen interior! Very interesting!
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Posted 16 March 2009 - 09:15

Very interesting - it all adds to our fountain pen education! Thanks smile.gif

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 22:50

QUOTE (ntheo @ Mar 15 2009, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just a quick question,

The little plastic "tray" that holds the ink sac. That's something you modified or is that part of the original part.

Thanks.

Like Dillon indicated, the tray was Esterbrooks way of using the same sac in all the pens. The official name was a sac support. I even have a stash of them nos but I'm not sure why!

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 22:55

QUOTE (FarmBoy @ Mar 16 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like Dillon indicated, the tray was Esterbrooks way of using the same sac in all the pens. The official name was a sac support. I even have a stash of them nos but I'm not sure why!

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 23:07

Thanks Todd!!! this is Great!
-esp for those of us who don't have an engineer's xray sight ability:)



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Posted 16 March 2009 - 23:58

QUOTE (OcalaFlGuy @ Mar 16 2009, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (FarmBoy @ Mar 16 2009, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like Dillon indicated, the tray was Esterbrooks way of using the same sac in all the pens. The official name was a sac support. I even have a stash of them nos but I'm not sure why!

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 16:05

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing!

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 09:03

I was digging out the ossified sac in an old SJ and didn't know about the plastic tray until I'd already destroyed it and pulled it out in pieces. I didn't know what it was and worked hard to get it out... Thought it was glue or something. :headsmack: I can't tell you how stupid I feel. The other pens I've worked with didn't have a tray like that in them, so I just didn't know!

So when I replace the sac, will the pen still work without the tray?

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 09:22

Great for showing to those new to fountain pens too :) Nice idea!
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 00:01

I was digging out the ossified sac in an old SJ and didn't know about the plastic tray until I'd already destroyed it and pulled it out in pieces. I didn't know what it was and worked hard to get it out... Thought it was glue or something. :headsmack: I can't tell you how stupid I feel. The other pens I've worked with didn't have a tray like that in them, so I just didn't know!

So when I replace the sac, will the pen still work without the tray?


The sac support allowed J sized pens to use #16 ink sacs like the LJ & SJ. A larger size sac could be used (my transitional J didn't have the support and used about an 18 or 19 size sac.

But you may be able to find someone with an extra support--or, just buy some more Esterbrooks, including parts pens and find a support that way.

Just re read the thread and caught that you were talking about an SJ. I don't remember that my SJ's had supports.

Edited by PaFitch, 03 February 2010 - 00:02.


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Posted 05 February 2010 - 18:51

They didn't. The tray was only in the full size J's to make up for the wider girth than the LJ and SJ. Fenriz, are you sure there was a tray in your pen? Are you sure it is an SJ? If there was a tray, it must be the larger standard J, but I wonder if what you saw was just part of the sac you were removing. Pictures of what you now have might also help.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:42

Hmm- I called it an SJ because it's a little shorter than my J, but bigger than my LJ. I just called it based on the pics on esterbrook.net. What I removed looked a lot like the support in my J. What I dug out was hard, clear plastic. Like I said, it looked like glue to me, but it was more regular and clear than glue. Also, I was never able to remove the whole thing- its base won't budge. So what would be shorter than a J, but the same girth?

Sorry, no pics- can't find my camera at the moment.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 03:49

forgot to say that the girth of the pen I thought was an SJ is the same as my J. So I guess it's a shorter J? That doesn't seem right. I am sure it wasn't part of the sac, it was clear.. actually looked like someone had already removed the sac, oddly enough. There was a chip or two of ossified rubber, but that was it. I'll see if I can post a pic or two.






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