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Excuse my ignorance....but how different is it from the Sailor Zoom nib?

I think that the Zoom nib has only two tines. With the Zoom nib, as the pen is moved closer to the paper, there is widening of the surface of the tines which is in contact with the paper.

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I just received my Cross Concord today. I think I got a dud. Firstly, it was advertised on eBay as a Professional Gear body, but it looks more like a Sappporo. I can get over that, but my biggest concern is the ink flow. It seems kind of dry and definitely skips on a horizontal line. When I flip it over to the Broad end, it doesn't start up right away, but once it does get going, there is some good ink flow, although I get a bit of a "shadow" or a double line effect on some strokes.

 

ZenPen, I take it you don't have any problems with ink flow or problems described above?

 

I flushed out the pen a few times with water the moment I got it and loaded it up with Watermans Florida Blue,, which I consider failsafe. No go. It doesn't write as wet, and it's not nearly as smooth as I thought it would be. It works, but not what I expected. Perhaps I'm expecting too much? I'm a huge Japanese fountain pen fan, having more than a dozen Pilots, Namikis and Nakayas and love them because they are all so wet and smooth. Would have thought this Sailor (my first) would have been much the same.

 

Maybe I just got a lemon? I've got the nib soaking for now, will leave it overnight and see if it helps...

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I just received my Cross Concord today. I think I got a dud. Firstly, it was advertised on eBay as a Professional Gear body, but it looks more like a Sappporo. I can get over that, but my biggest concern is the ink flow. It seems kind of dry and definitely skips on a horizontal line. When I flip it over to the Broad end, it doesn't start up right away, but once it does get going, there is some good ink flow, although I get a bit of a "shadow" or a double line effect on some strokes.

 

ZenPen, I take it you don't have any problems with ink flow or problems described above?

 

I flushed out the pen a few times with water the moment I got it and loaded it up with Watermans Florida Blue,, which I consider failsafe. No go. It doesn't write as wet, and it's not nearly as smooth as I thought it would be. It works, but not what I expected. Perhaps I'm expecting too much? I'm a huge Japanese fountain pen fan, having more than a dozen Pilots, Namikis and Nakayas and love them because they are all so wet and smooth. Would have thought this Sailor (my first) would have been much the same.

 

Maybe I just got a lemon? I've got the nib soaking for now, will leave it overnight and see if it helps...

 

You've got a Professional Gear for sure.(pro gear is smaller than 1911 profit)

Nagahara Writing Section doesn't fit in Sapporo size pen.

Ink flow: nagahara cross nib needs some attentions that's not requested for other broad standard nib.

I own a cross concord emperor, a cross emperor and a concord emperor.

Writing with one of these is not like writing with any other nibs.

Nagahara Nibs: love it or hate it.

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Gave the nib section a good overnight soak and loaded up with Parker Quink. Is now working much better. No longer skips on the horizontal line. Sailoraff is correct in his view that writing with this nib is not like writing with any other nibs. As one would expect with a nib this built up, its a very stiff nib. With the nib shape, it's as if the pen is on platform shoes. Am getting used to it and now that there is better flow, am starting to like it. I enjoy flipping it over and using the broad side for signing my correspondence. My assistant remarked that it looked like I had signed off with a Sharpie! I think she meant it as a compliment...

 

If this is a Pro Gear body, it doesn't say it on the cap ring. It simply says "Sailor Japan Founded 1911". The Pro Gears I've seen on the web all have "Professional Gear" on it; hence my thinking that it was a Sapporo body. However, after measuring it at a length (capped) of 5 1/16" (12.7mm), I have to agree with Sailoraff as this is the listed length of a Pro Gear. The Sapporo is shorter than 5".

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Wonderful information and pictures. Special thanks to Sciopod for the nib explanation.

 

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If this is a Pro Gear body, it doesn't say it on the cap ring. It simply says "Sailor Japan Founded 1911". The Pro Gears I've seen on the web all have "Professional Gear" on it; hence my thinking that it was a Sapporo body. However, after measuring it at a length (capped) of 5 1/16" (12.7mm), I have to agree with Sailoraff as this is the listed length of a Pro Gear. The Sapporo is shorter than 5".

For those who stumble in here...

 

A Flat topped cap would mean that it is a Sailor Pro Gear (Professional Gear) FP

A Conical topped cap would mean that it is a Sailor 1911 series FP

 

In both cases, the barrell bottom matches the cap top (flat or conical).

 

Cheers!

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