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#1 Stompy

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 07:44

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This is a modern version of the Sheaffer PFM (Pen For Men) which goes some way to explain why this could be used as a club in a tight spot. I've only recently been turned on to Sheaffer pens. Last year I only had a Sheaffer School pen. Now I have 4 and this is my newest acquisition. A two colour pen. The cap is matt black, and the body is brushed platinum plate. The trim is palladium plated, and the nib is palladium plated 18k gold. The fit and finish is excellent. The cap is a snap on and off, and it requires a good manly action and produces a satisfying 'click'.

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Let's look at this compared with a TM (Thin Model Touchdown), not the extra length and girth. This is not a small pen. 14cm capped, 12 cm uncapped. I don't post and when I tried to do so for this review the sound of metal on metal just put me off. It's probably safe to post, but I'm not going to do it. The girth is about 13mm, but I find it a comfortable fit for my hand. This is a hefty pen, but it feels comfortable and in keeping with the size of the pen. I shall see how it feels after a long write out over the weekend.

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Of course, the real engine of a pen is the nib. This is 18k plated with palladium, and this is a Fine grade. This is a firm nib, but not a nail, there is a little spring to it, and it puts down a wet even line. I was surprised to find the tines slightly misaligned but five minutes with a loupe and a fingernail sorted that out. This was my first time aligning tines, and I've learned that it's best to work on a pen that isn't filled to avoid washing tiny flecks of ink off one's face and glasses. The slit is well shaped; a little wider at the breather hole than at the tines, which helps capillary action. The section is smooth and black and the inlay is seamless.

The filling mechanism is a choice between cartridges, or a convertor which lets you use the touchdown filler mechanism. Unlike normal touchdowns, this method requires two strokes to fill. You can feel a good airtight seal when you operate the pneumatic tube, and if you open and then tighten the barrel, you can feel the rubber gasket that it screws down onto to make a good seal as well. There is an obvious join at the blind cap, but I think it looks quite attractive - a detail on the plain brushed finish of the pen.

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There was no doubt about what to fill this pen with - Waterman Florida Blue. The filling mechanism was painless to use, and the pen started writing straight away. A smooth, but not butter-smooth nib which is good for me because I like a little tooth when I write. And smooth enough to use in a Moleskine without showing through on the other side.

I'm pleased with this pen. A modern version of a vintage classic with an interesting filling mechanism and eye-catching nib. Weighty, but not uncomfortable to write with and nicely balanced in use. A pen I would like to leave as a legacy.

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 08:42

Great review, Stompy.

I could be wrong but I think apart from the choice of filling mechanisms, there's not much difference between the Legacy II and the Legacy, which I have - the latter is a touchdown filler only.

The Legacy, along with my 1911 demo, are the two pens that are permanently inked (so far anyway). That's how much I like using this pen. And I agree whole-heartedly with your conclusion.

Oh yeah, very neat handwriting too. Makes me think twice about posting mine. :ph34r:

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 17:23

Nice Review Stompy.

I'm not at all familiar with the touchdown filling system, would you perhaps takes some pictures of this system?

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 17:28

Great info at Richard's site on Pneumatics. I love the TD filler. Especially the snork which allows a fill without dipping hte tip at all.

http://www.richardsp.../pneumatics.htm

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#5 Johnny Appleseed

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 20:48

Also check out

Penhero Touchdown Article

On the Penhero website.

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Posted 01 August 2005 - 20:48

Hi Stompy,

Great review, very nice pictures!

Would it be possible to show the filling mechanism in a picture as well?

TIA, warm regards, Wim

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#7 Stompy

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Posted 01 August 2005 - 22:03

Would it be possible to show the filling mechanism in a picture as well?

Thanks for the kind words, I shall sort out some pics tomorrow.

I need to take some pics to review the Danitrio Lacquer over metal pen that I got off Winedoc this weekend as well.

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Posted 02 August 2005 - 21:23

Hi Stompy,

Great! I'll be looking forward to it!

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 01:08

Great review on the pen. Thanks for sharing - looking forward to the upcoming filling system pics.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 06:03

Super review, Stompy! Took me a while to catch up on the reviews I missed while I was on hiatus from FPN et al...but it was worth it, to read your review :)
I know many people that are Legacy "fans". I don't have a Legacy as my focus is primarily vintage, but I do have a PFM in maroon and it's a great writer.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 00:49

I'm glad I made a purchase of a new Old Stock Legacy II. I didn't realise that it had been superceded by the Legacy Heritage neither did the store I'm purchasing it from. I aksed for a Legacy II in black laquer with stub nib, they called me back saying it was available and at less than 50%. It should arrive this coming week. Great review, it justifies my purchase.
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Posted 04 December 2005 - 17:52

I got NOS Legacy II from Jim at PenHero a few months ago, a duplicate of Stompy's in terms of nib and finish.

Having used it for a few months, it's one of my favorites. I love the Touchdown filler, the nib is smooth and the pen feels solid in the hand. An understated but classy pen, without a doubt.

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Posted 06 December 2005 - 06:48

If I were forced to choose only one fountain pen (Heaven forbid!), I've often thought that it would have to be one from the Legacy series. They're my most-used pens, especially with the great Sheaffer stub nib (no longer available, alas).

Someone in the thread asked to see a picture of the Touchdown mechanism. Sorry for the quality of this old scanned photo, but it gives an idea (the blind cap unscrews to enable you to pull out the mechanism). You then insert the nib into the ink bottle, and when you push in the rod again the pen begins to fill.

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 03:19

At last it turned up. My Legacy is fabulous. Black with gold trim and the much sort after stub nib. To say the stub is broad and wet is an understatement. It is huge and so smooth to write with. Often I've heard that broad/stub nibs run a little dry due to the amount of ink they lay down, not this one. I shall have to write in a larger font style as loops etc turn in to a large blob but I'm not complaining. What a great pen, nice big size and some weight as well. I can now see and feel what all the fuss is about.
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Posted 19 December 2005 - 04:48

Just got home and had to add this pic.

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 05:21

I could be wrong but I think apart from the choice of filling mechanisms, there's not much difference between the Legacy II and the Legacy, which I have - the latter is a touchdown filler only.

I have recently read that the Legacy (I) also offers the option of using a cartridge instead of the touchdown filler just like the Legacy II (My apologies if my original post influenced anyone the wrong way). I have yet to confirm this personally as I do not have the need nor desire to dismantle and check/change the system. I'm loving the uniqueness of the Touchdown filler. B)

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 05:24

Yep your'e correct, mines got cartridge/convertor which is a personal preference.
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Posted 19 December 2005 - 05:44

Yep your'e correct, mines got cartridge/convertor which is a personal preference.
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There you go. Thanks, Gary! B)

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Posted 26 December 2005 - 06:34

I'm glad I made a purchase of a new Old Stock Legacy II. I didn't realise that it had been superceded by the Legacy Heritage neither did the store I'm purchasing it from. I aksed for a Legacy II in black laquer with stub nib, they called me back saying it was available and at less than 50%. It should arrive this coming week. Great review, it justifies my purchase.

Which store do you speak of, if I might ask?

I've been looking into this pen for quite sometime.

I'd really like to catch a deal before it is too late.


Thanks for your time.

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Posted 27 December 2005 - 00:36

Unless you live in New Zealand you will it difficult.
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