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My first fine nib and I only own 2 Aurora's and 1 Lamy Safari. Please forgive these ?s that require subjective answers!

1. I don't like the Ipsilon fine point, but I don't want to buy a M for $95 & I don't need another Aurora.

2 Maybe I'm not using the fine nib correctly? I don't usually apply alot of pressure when I write, but with the Ipsilon F, pressure improves the control I have with my characters.

3. The Aurora Style M I have just flows...but it's not dainty nor does it give me a nice consistent hand.Kinda frustrating.

 

Can anyone tell me advantages of a fine nib? My handwriting is a mix of cursive/block with loopy y's and g's, I admire the French style of writing, so long as it can be consistent and easy to read.

 

Do my questions have answers? Or do I just have a massive trial and error ahead of me?

merci..

 

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Please forgive these ?s that require subjective answers!

1. I don't like the Ipsilon fine point, but I don't want to buy a M for $95 & I don't need another Aurora.

So, what is it that you subjectively don't like about your/the Fine nib on your Aurora Ipsilon? Are the lines it puts down on paper too narrow? Is the ink flow too 'dry' such that the marks made with a nominally or usually dark ink look unduly pale? Is it the level of kinaesthetic feedback, as if you can feel the friction between the nib tipping and the paper surface with every stroke, when writing that bothers you?

 

2 Maybe I'm not using the fine nib correctly? I don't usually apply alot of pressure when I write, but with the Ipsilon F, pressure improves the control I have with my characters.

Downward pressure generally "improves" user control of the pen, because of the increased friction that needs more force sideways to overcome; the user doesn't need to have such fine-grained motor control. The trade-off there is increased physical effort to produce the same travel.

 

Unlike writing with a broad-edged nib, I don't think there's a straightforward or definitive "correct" way to use a Fine or narrow nib with round tipping. I know some people advocate "arm writing" without qualifying the statement or recommendation, and I really don't know whether it's a suitable technique for writing in Arabic, Chinese or Japanese, or even writing in a Latin-based language at x-height of ≤2.5mm on 5mm-spaced lines.

 

So, perhaps it would help if you could describe, or better still, show us photographically the writing outcomes you want to produce with a fountain pen.

 

3. The Aurora Style M I have just flows...but it's not dainty nor does it give me a nice consistent hand.Kinda frustrating.

Again, it would help if you can 'tell' or show us what you're trying to achieve on the page with the application of ink.

 

Can anyone tell me advantages of a fine nib? My handwriting is a mix of cursive/block with loopy y's and g's, I admire the French style of writing, so long as it can be consistent and easy to read.

Sorry, but I have no idea what "the French style of writing" is, calligraphically speaking; none of the books on calligraphy in my (personal) library makes reference to that style by name or region. (Just to be clear that I'm not being geopolitically biased here, "the American style of writing" would mean equally nothing, or "the Chinese style of writing" for that matter as if there was something overwhelming prevalent or representative of over one billion individuals literate in the language.)

 

As far as I'm concerned, a sufficiently line nib allows me to write like this:

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/343846-objectively-how-thin-or-thick-a-line-do-you-require-your-nibs-to-produce/

 

as well as, of course, English and Japanese on 5mm-spaced lines without the writing becoming indecipherable.

 

I have two Aurora Ipsilon pens — or, actually, four if you count the one I gave my wife to use, and the new one reserved as a potential gift for one of our family friends to get her started on fountain pens — with Extra Fine nibs here, and I think they write wonderfully. (There's a short writing sample with it here: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/351259-what-pens-are-you-using-today-2020/?p=4361437 that I posted a couple of days ago.) Plenty of examples here of what I do with Fine nibs here: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/343508-q-i-use-western-fine-nibs-what-is-the-japanese-equivalent/?p=4173821 (and also scroll above and below from that post) and this here: http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/331106-dont-just-tell-us-about-the-pen-youre-using-show-us-2018-2019-2020/?p=4344150

which I'm sure I can't produce with a Medium nib.

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Mr SD, many thanks for your guidance and advice—the writing samples are lovely. As well as your hand. Appears the artistry of your writing will illuminate the page regardless of nib!

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@scribe822 Thank you for your kind words!

 

I'm struggling to use a Pilot Capless Vanishing Point pen fitted with a Stub nib right now; my pen grip is a little unconventional, and the positioning of the pen's clip is getting in the way of my control. My problem. The Aurora Ipsilon is a joy to use compared to that, so maybe I should try to get one with a Stub nib some time.

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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I don't know about modern Aurora nibs, but the older ones were 'toothy', sort of the feeling of writing with a pencil.

Aurora was once the thinnest European nib, so a F would close to Japanese F.

I once tried a very, very expensive Aurora pen (E-750 on sale 1/3 off), back when you could still get it in semi-flex (not any more*), but to me it was too scratchy....and I didn't know enough of how to make it less toothy.

 

When Aurora went away from semi-flex nibs, and they were the last company to make them, I stopped looking for them.

In I have my plate full with old German pens, I never got around to buying old semi-flex Aurora's.

 

* Their 'new' flexi nib is not liked by many who post here, in it's not superflex, and not even semi-flex.

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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