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Two Pens Not In Paul Hoban' Book


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#1 corgicoupe

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Posted 20 September 2020 - 00:57

I have two Esterbrooks that don't seem to be included in Paul Hoban's "The Fountain Pens of Esterbrook".  Can anyone give me some detailed information about these pens?

 

The first is, I believe, a BHR Dollar pen.  The barrel engraving reads

R. Esterbrook Co.

MADE IN U.S.A.

 

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The second is a Relief that I believe is plastic, but the cap dome may be BHR.  The engraving reads

R. Esterbrook Co.

"RELIEF"

No 2-L

 

The nib is engraved

RELIEF

14 CT 2

MADE IN

ENGLAND

ESTERBROOK

 

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Edited by corgicoupe, 20 September 2020 - 00:59.

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Posted 20 September 2020 - 01:34

Congratulations on finding these two pens.  They are interesting.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 02:04

You will find further information at esterbrook.net. There is a page about the relief pens. Paul Hoban's book laid a foundation for Esterbrook research. Brian Anderson has added substantially to the knowledge base and much of that knowledge has been posted at the Esterbrook.net website.

 

Nice pens!


Edited by PaFitch, 21 September 2020 - 02:07.


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Posted 21 September 2020 - 17:10

Both of my pens are shown on the Esterbrook.net site.  Thanks for pointing that out.


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 15:06

Then, there is the Relief 66 pen, which looks exactly like a Dollar pen, but has a few differences - It's longer, the cap has "Relief" stamped on the end, and the clip has much narrower slits..  The barrel may also be stamped with both Esterbrook and Relief 66
 



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Posted 22 September 2020 - 18:01

What did Esterbrook really mean by "Relief?"  I thought for a long time it was their code for oblique.  I think there's more to it.


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 18:27

What did Esterbrook really mean by "Relief?"  I thought for a long time it was their code for oblique.  I think there's more to it.

 

I believe that all the nibs used on these pens are, in fact, oblique nibs.  The Relief 66 may be an exception, using the screw-in Esterbrook nibs.
Then, we have the Relief 12, which is more related to Conway Stewart.



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Posted 22 September 2020 - 19:13

Then, there is the Relief 66 pen, which looks exactly like a Dollar pen, but has a few differences - It's longer, the cap has "Relief" stamped on the end, and the clip has much narrower slits..  The barrel may also be stamped with both Esterbrook and Relief 66
 

 

Get your kicks on Relief 66...


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Posted 22 September 2020 - 21:02

What did Esterbrook really mean by "Relief?"  I thought for a long time it was their code for oblique.  I think there's more to it.

Maybe it was a relief to write with that oblique nib?  I find it very nice to write with.  I got the Relief 2-L from Gary.


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Posted 23 September 2020 - 00:05

The barrel for the Relief 66 is stamped "Esterbrook, Made in England"   Now....I have to actually find mine.  I appear to have lost it.



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Posted 23 September 2020 - 00:56

Is that an indication that you have too many fountain pens? :lticaptd:


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Posted 23 September 2020 - 04:34

The barrel for the Relief 66 is stamped "Esterbrook, Made in England"   Now....I have to actually find mine.  I appear to have lost it.

You better hope it didn't come up on the E-radar at a pen show near you and it was spotted, targeted, and taken...


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Posted 23 September 2020 - 11:22

You better hope it didn't come up on the E-radar at a pen show near you and it was spotted, targeted, and taken...

 

This one doesn't usually leave my house.  I took a photo of it for the FB group not so long ago.   I just put it someplace out of the usual.



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Posted 28 September 2020 - 19:56

What did Esterbrook really mean by "Relief?"  I thought for a long time it was their code for oblique.  I think there's more to it.


Hi Pajaro,

Maybe, when compared to the other budget-line pens of the day, it was a "relief" to your hand to use a Relief. :unsure:


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