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I Was About To Buy A Cross Century Classic Black, But...

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#1 gammada

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Posted 22 August 2020 - 16:36

Just before pressing the "buy now" button, I went thru the reviews and found that it is a PLASTIC pen!!

 

Wouldn't mind paying 10, 15 or 20 dollars for a plastic pen, but $50? And, since when the iconic Century has been made out of cheap plastic? All the Century pens I own (made in USA) are metal. Why did Cross thought using plastic was a great idea?

 

I really wanted to get back to the brand, but the more I try, the more disappointed I become.

 

The Century Classic Black pen is just lovely looking. What a waste of design.



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Posted 22 August 2020 - 22:30

Just before pressing the "buy now" button, I went thru the reviews and found that it is a PLASTIC pen!!

 

Wouldn't mind paying 10, 15 or 20 dollars for a plastic pen, but $50? And, since when the iconic Century has been made out of cheap plastic? All the Century pens I own (made in USA) are metal. Why did Cross thought using plastic was a great idea?

 

I really wanted to get back to the brand, but the more I try, the more disappointed I become.

 

The Century Classic Black pen is just lovely looking. What a waste of design.

 

Is it possible that the pen was a Cross Solo, a plastic pen?  Made by Pilot to Cross specs, it is a pretty good pen, but not the black metal you expected.  Possibly worth $25 or $30 plus shipping. 


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Posted 22 August 2020 - 23:39

What is wrong with plastic, and why shouldn’t a plastic pen cost more than $50? I guess you don’t work for Montblanc.

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Posted 23 August 2020 - 00:23

What is wrong with plastic, and why shouldn’t a plastic pen cost more than $50? I guess you don’t work for Montblanc.

:lticaptd:

 

That's why I don't currently own any MB's!

 

What I find wrong is that my other pen alternative before looking at the Century was also a Chinese pen: Hongdian Black Forest that goes for $14 and is all metal!

 

Also, all of my beloved old Century pens are metal. I can't wrap my mind in having a Cross made out of plastic.



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Posted 23 August 2020 - 00:24

 

Is it possible that the pen was a Cross Solo, a plastic pen?  Made by Pilot to Cross specs, it is a pretty good pen, but not the black metal you expected.  Possibly worth $25 or $30 plus shipping. 

This is the one I was briefly in love with: https://www.amazon.c...98142237&sr=8-7



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Posted 23 August 2020 - 03:58

Just to distance myself from any accusation of undue prejudices, some of my best pens are plastic.

 

Hongdian Black Forest that goes for $14 and is all metal!

 

Then you're paying too much.


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Posted 11 October 2020 - 09:26

Ive never heard of a plastic CROSS pen either.


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Posted 11 October 2020 - 12:37

Ive never heard of a plastic CROSS pen either.


Cross Bailey light is plastic

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Posted 11 October 2020 - 14:19

I clicked thr OP's link. I see no mention of plastic in the description of the Cross Classic Century,


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Posted 11 October 2020 - 18:46

The Cross Solo Classic is plastic and is a lovely pen, particularly due to a very nicely smooth nib.

It's the only Cross I own.

 

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Posted 12 October 2020 - 10:34

The Cross Solo/Radiance is a great pen. It's a good size in the hand and, if I understand correctly, it has a nib that was sourced from Pilot.  


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Posted 12 October 2020 - 12:17

Youll sometimes pay $50 for a vintage Esterbrook which were made of plastic.

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Posted 12 October 2020 - 18:14

The Cross Solo is an excellent pen. Bulletproof, ergonomic and everything else good ...... and plastic.
I have used one for the last 18 years and it has never, not even once, let me down. It has one of the smoothest nibs I have used.

In some cases plastic is preferable to steel (slick steel grip sections anyone ?). In pens it's just a matter of taste. I prefer plastic.

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Posted 12 October 2020 - 23:30

The Cross Solo/Radiance is a great pen. It's a good size in the hand and, if I understand correctly, it has a nib that was sourced from Pilot.  

I have two Cross Solos.  I don't remember about the blue one, but the Red one actually has "Made in Japan" stamped on the barrel.

Neither one was particularly expensive.  

OTOH, gammada, the Pilot Falcon I just got is ALSO plastic, and cost way more than both of the Cross pens, combined (it's one of the new Falcom colors).   And my Pelikans, most of which cost a LOT more than the Falcon, are ALSO plastic.... For that matter, the barrels of my vintage Parkers are also, effectively, plastic....  

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 13:16

I have two Cross Solos.  I don't remember about the blue one, but the Red one actually has "Made in Japan" stamped on the barrel.

Neither one was particularly expensive.  

 

That's interesting. I don't recall if mine have any stampings on the barrel. I quite enjoy my Solo/Radiances. Unless I'm wrong the Solo has the plain cap band and the Radiance is the same pen with a cap band that resembles that of the Townsend. (I've actually swapped out the cap bands on occasion) 

 

I don't think enough is commonly known about Cross's outsourcing of nibs - Pilot and Pelikan (for at least the Townsend) as far as I know. Perhaps the brand wouldn't be so denigrated. (There are brands with much worse styling in my opinion.)  


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Posted 13 October 2020 - 23:10

Well, the first Solo I bought from the estate of a friend, after getting a heads up that there was a tent set up at something I was at.  I had to go home and do research because I didn't know enough about the brand to know even which converter to get for it.  There were some other things I was also interested in, but before I got back up to the event on Sunday, someone had come along and bought the remaining contents of the tent entirely.  But the people running the sale had put the pen aside for me.  The second one I got a couple of years ago at the Ohio Pen Show, from a vendor in the hallway who had a bunch of other colors.  When I went back on Sunday morning, only the blue one with the B nib was left, but it had a converter already in the pen.  I liked the first one, and it was just a matter of trying to figure out what color to get for the second one (and then the decision got made for me...  :rolleyes:).

Oh, forgot I also have a Cross Verve (which, IIRC, also has a B nib).  I picked it up for a buck at a local thrift shop which specializes in arts and crafts stuff, on my way to a pen club meeting, where someone gave me a converter for it (the Verve takes the screw-in style converters).  

I keep thinking that I should pull out the Verve and make another stab at trying to use it, but that two piece nib is just weird and I got ink all over my fingers the first time I used it.  I'd have to see if I could hold it high enough on the hood for that not to happen and still have the pen be easy to handle when writing.

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 08:07

Cross Bailey light is plastic

 

I should have qualified that as I've never heard of a plastic CROSS CENTURY.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 06:48

Just before pressing the "buy now" button, I went thru the reviews and found that it is a PLASTIC pen!!

 

Wouldn't mind paying 10, 15 or 20 dollars for a plastic pen, but $50? And, since when the iconic Century has been made out of cheap plastic? All the Century pens I own (made in USA) are metal. Why did Cross thought using plastic was a great idea?

 

I really wanted to get back to the brand, but the more I try, the more disappointed I become.

 

The Century Classic Black pen is just lovely looking. What a waste of design.

I have a Cross Century Classic black PVD and it's not plastic. Only the grip is plastic but rest is aluminum with a lovely matt PVD finish. It looks and feels fantastic and, it's very well balanced.

 

First generation Century (the gold ones with Lamy style gold nibs) is a more substantial pen (in terms of build) but, the new one is neither flimsy, nor a bad writer.

 

You're missing out something nice and understated IMHO.



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Posted 21 October 2020 - 10:36

I have the feeling that the OP confused PVD with PVC


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