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Normal For Diamine?

diamine ink batch variation

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#1 Rosendust



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Posted 08 August 2020 - 02:00

Hey everyone, I primarily use and change inks in my Pilot Metropolitan frequently; but I've never had to rinse and re-ink within a day.


Does Diamine tend to run on the dry side or did I just get a drier than usual batch? The ink in question is the shade:

Soft Mint.


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Posted 08 August 2020 - 02:28

Hey everyone, I primarily use and change inks in my Pilot Metropolitan frequently; but I've never had to rinse and re-ink within a day.
Does Diamine tend to run on the dry side or did I just get a drier than usual batch? The ink in question is the shade:
Soft Mint.
Thank you for any input you can provide.

I use Diamine almost exclusively and I’ve noticed that some colors just seem drier than others - probably not much help as I don’t have any scientific basis for that, just years of using ONLY this ink. For example, I have some “music” specialty bottles that I bought several years ago that all seem dry, but the Pelham Blue and Oxford Blue I picked recently are all wet as I prefer them to be.

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Posted 08 August 2020 - 05:22

I've used a lot of Diamine inks and never found any of them to be too dry. They're mostly just middle-of-the-road in terms of wetness. Never used Soft Mint though.


So I was curious and I quickly googled some reviews.  I read a batch of about 5 or 6 of them, and none mentioned the ink being dry.  In fact, here are some comments I just cut and pasted from reviews:  "it flowed freely", "it flowed well", "was well lubricated"... "has good flow", "average flow" "flows nicely", "very good flow" "excellent! Flows nicely".   I assume these to mean that it's not too dry. 


Here's a longer comment from an FPN review: "Flow for this ink seems to be high. I suspect a dry fine nib would have no issues. Lubrication was moderate in the pen tested... The writing experience was tricky due to the moderate lubrication..."


Unless there's been a change, maybe you did get a drier than normal batch?  Did you switch paper?  I find that my Diamine inks flow driest on Mnemosyne, and on Rhodia "R" paper (not very dry, just drier than on other papers).



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Posted 08 August 2020 - 07:01

Try it on different papers, and/or with different nibs.


Some colours tend to dryness regardless of manufacturer. Orangey yellow red spectrum for instance, and some pastels


Heroic measures to reduce dryness and improve flow:



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Posted 08 August 2020 - 22:54

Sometimes it feels dry because the pen still has water in it and the ink becomes a bit dilute at the nib.

Perhaps try leaving it in the pen for a couple of days to see how it behaves.

It happens to me when I'm too much in a hurry to clean out a pen and fill it with a new ink: I was trying Sailor Shigure and found it a bit washed out and dry. After a few hours, the nib lay down a fully saturated line and the ink covered (or lubricated) the tip well and did not feel like I was writing with water.


ETA: it also happened with Diamine's Asa Blue, Vivaldi from the Music set and Regency Blue from the 150th set.

Edited by Jarod, 08 August 2020 - 22:55.

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Posted 09 August 2020 - 01:22

I would imagine that with over 100 different inks not counting the shimmer line that there would be some that lean towards the dry side. The five or six I have lean moderate to wet.

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Posted 09 August 2020 - 02:17

The one Diamine ink I have is Grape, and I found it to dry out so quickly in the nib that the flow would stop as I paused to consider the next phrase within a sentence.  


The solution to this problem is to cap the pen whenever the nib is not actually in motion on the page.

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Posted 09 August 2020 - 03:59

I thought soft mint was dry.  I was not a fan, but it is also not a super saturated ink which is my normal perferance.

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Posted 09 August 2020 - 04:09

different colours within the same brand/range can have different writing sensations - could be attributed to flow rate, amount of surfactants, etc.

some reviewers try to play neutral/nice and grade dry inks as having 'moderate flow' or 'no problems with flow', do read reviews judiciously, as always.

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Posted 11 August 2020 - 10:57

Taking a different tack: Perhaps try cleaning your pen with a few drops of dish washing-up liquid in 1/2 cup cool tap water (blue Dawn is the preferred hand dishwashing detergent)? Let the nib and feed unit soak for a while, even overnight. Then be sure to thoroughly rinse with clean, cool water. Shake out the majority of the rinse water, and use a paper towel to wick and coax out even a few more drops.

I've had a couple of inks which seemed on the quite dry side, of various brands, until I did a pen cleaning and assured an unimpeded flow of ink. After sampling quite a few Diamine inks, I'd say that while one can always quibble over colors and hues, the performance characteristics -such as wet/dryness- have always been well-balanced. Can't address your ink specifically from experience, however.

Can't hurt to try a good clean-out.

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