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Pelikan M800 Section Separated

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#1 lmederos

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 20:02

Hi all !

 

I have an M800 that I recently dropped on the floor, while the cap was screwed.

 

I was surprised to see ink all over the floor, and when I picked it up, the cap and the screwed nib and piston were separated from the section where the ink is stored.

 

The section seems to have "popped out" from a collar.  Has anyone experienced this?   Since the nib is still screwed on the cap, it is hard to see exactly what happened.

 

Any suggestions?

 

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:32

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The piston is *inside* the section that separated from the nib collar.   The image shows the cap (with the nib inside, attached to the cap as normally when capped).   I have never had something like this happen.
 
If anyone has any suggestions, I would be grateful.
 
Thanks
 
 
 

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 02:42

Yes. This is known to happen to m800s. You can get Pelikan to fix or replace. Its also possible to solvent weld the pieces together.

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 06:14

Two things have happened.

The barrel-section fused joint has detached. The barrel's spigot seems to have neatly sheared off. With a part of it still remaining inside the section.

The binde has separated from the barrel.

I have had great success with pelikan service in Germany. Depending on where you are located you can enquire either with Pelikan or third party pen mechanics who guarantee their work.
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Posted 03 August 2020 - 18:48

Thanks for your replies.

 

I have contacted Pelikan and waiting for their response.

 

It is a perfect separation of the barrel --- smooth all around.


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Posted 03 August 2020 - 19:16

There is a exploded view of a Pelikan 800 at the top of the repair forum.  The barrel itself is clear or tinted plastic, with a nose piece sticking out that the section is glued onto.  The striped part of the barrel is called the binde, which is glued on over the barrel itself.  Last I heard Pelikan charges $250 for a replacement barrel when the pen is out of warranty.

 

I don't know how many fail VS the number of pens sold, but I repair an average of 3-4 of the pens a month, and have for nearly a decade.   In most cases the nose piece snaps off, leaving the forward part in the section.  Sometimes it's a clean break, sometimes uneven.  Yours is one of the more extreme cases that I've seen, where the binde has come off as well.

 

There is an awful lot of stress in this area as you write.  Given how they break, and how often I see them, I don't think that just solvent welding the pieces together is adequate.  I machine a bushing to bridge the break, and machine barrel and section to fit, then bond the pieces together.  I have 4 of them that I've done and use to test the durability of the repair.  Thus far, none have broken in the repair area.  Barrels have broken if stressed enough, but always somewhere else.  Thus far, none have come back to me because the repair failed.


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Posted 03 August 2020 - 20:30

Two things have happened.

The barrel-section fused joint has detached. The barrel's spigot seems to have neatly sheared off. With a part of it still remaining inside the section.

The binde has separated from the barrel.

I have had great success with pelikan service in Germany. Depending on where you are located you can enquire either with Pelikan or third party pen mechanics who guarantee their work.

I agree with Hari 100%.

 

In my opinion, Pelikan is the "best of class" when it comes to modern day fountain pen manufacturers and their post sales service.  They really stand behind their pens.

 

Pelikan will either perform a "good as new" repair upon your pen or replace the barrel-section fused joint completely.  And, it will come with a full warranty which covers their work.  The length of the warranty may vary by country, though.

 

You will be treated as though you are a valued customer.  :yikes:   Imagine that!!!  A very pleasant experience!!!

 

Good luck; let us know how it turns out.



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Posted 03 August 2020 - 21:24

The solvent welded one i have here is going on 20 years since the repair.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 22:19

The solvent welded one i have here is going on 20 years since the repair.

Great!  I do a lot of solvent welding, and though they're generally strong, I've also seen solvent welds fail, so there is a strong skeptical element in my thinking.   I can't take the risk of the repair breaking again with a client's pen so I go for the strongest repair I can come up with.  I also think it depends on how and where it broke, and how heavy a hand you have.  My hand is heavy enough that sometimes I can feel a section shifting slightly as I write, and that's light compared to some of my  clients.


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