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#1 fpupulin

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 00:47

I found in an Italian pen forum a quite interesting new. I almost literally translate:

 

"A plastic resin identical to Arco celluloid was produced, its name is cuspide [Italian for cusp], I saw it in person at Leonardo.

It is wonderful, personally I will take a pen as soon as it comes out (probably in the fall), it has the beauty of Arco celluloid without the problems of celluloid and all the advantages of plastic resins.
 
There is in various colors, to see."
 
It would be really good to have a substitute for the now difficult to find Arco celluloid. We will see...


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Posted 20 July 2020 - 02:44

Yes, indeed.....will be something to see.....

but as you say, we will see.....

 

Thanks for sharing.


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Posted 20 July 2020 - 05:35

I also have high expectation for that Cuspide. Those materials look great on the photos. 



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Posted 20 July 2020 - 06:40

I also have high expectation for that Cuspide. Those materials look great on the photos. 

 

A link would be great :)


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Posted 20 July 2020 - 07:57

Here you go: 
 
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Personally, I think it looks interesting, but as a stand-in for Arco? Not sure about that.



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Posted 20 July 2020 - 08:12

Here you go: 
 
v2-ff47797fa8325edfc2ee7d44739411ef_1440w.jpg
 
Personally, I think it looks interesting, but as a stand-in for Arco? Not sure about that.

 

Agree. Thank god, that is a relief :)


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Posted 20 July 2020 - 09:02

A relief?



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Posted 20 July 2020 - 12:50

Here you go: 
 
v2-ff47797fa8325edfc2ee7d44739411ef_1440w.jpg
 
Personally, I think it looks interesting, but as a stand-in for Arco? Not sure about that.

Is this is a photo of the resin you are speaking about fpupulin?

If yes, I must respectfully disagree.  To my eye it is not even close...............



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Posted 20 July 2020 - 14:02

After seeing this, I prefer the Pineider Arco. I would have liked the Pineider Arco, if they hadn’t called it Arco.



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Posted 20 July 2020 - 14:11

Is this is a photo of the resin you are speaking about fpupulin?
If yes, I must respectfully disagree.  To my eye it is not even close...............


Dear mates: I have no idea if the rods in the pic are the Cuspide material the author in the Italian post refers to. If this is the material, I absolutely agree that, how much pleasing it could be, its resemblance with Arco celluloid is only superficial.
An interesting material for pens, nonetheless...

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 15:47

The Montegrappa Extra Hawaii I recently got from Bryant is made from what he called "stacked resin." When I think of stacked resin, I think of the Visconti Wall Street, but this is stacked differently. The Leonardo MZG in Sand looks like a similar material. It gives a facetted appearance rather than an arco effect. I find it very attractive in its own right.

 

The photo of the "cuspide" material does not float my boat, however.

 

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 16:01

A relief?

 

If there was an acrylic that rivalled arco, it would not be cheap and the temptation would be great. :P


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Posted 20 July 2020 - 16:28

Well, to be fair, Leonardo is not calling this resin Arco. According to the original post, someone in the Italian forum just said that it was “identical” to Arco, just a personal comment. From a marketing perspective, I feel that it would be wise that pen makers don’t try to call any modern resin material Arco. The expectation is too high! Better to under-promise and over-deliver.



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Posted 20 July 2020 - 16:34

Agreed, Leonardo definitely isn't calling it Arco.

When Salva showed the material, he just said that it was a new and very nice material, nothing about Arco.

First he showed Jonathon Brooks' primary manipulation (now sold out) and then this one, called "Cuspide"...



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Posted 21 July 2020 - 19:51

I'm curious as to which material this may be,

the type of material used for the Leonardo sand has been around for a long time.

It looks nothing like the arco to me, but it is one of those resin materials that mimics celluloid very well.

This is the Leonardo MZ

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Marlen used this type of material quite some time ago (this is a 388)

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Stipula also used a similar material to do the Duetto (this is the Cognac)

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And as David says the Leonardo Hawai, and before that the Corsani blue (which uses the same material as the much earlier Delta Bluejay) uses a similar stacked resin.

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If I am not mistaken the new Conway Steward 100s are using similar resins... (that is why I suspect they are made in Italy somewhere...)

 

The arco celluloids were clearly made with a staked type of technique which provides a similar appearance once the rod is turned, but the final look and mesmerizing shine of the arco is still quite far...


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Posted 21 July 2020 - 20:13

I mean... isn't this the sand? (the CS name is pearl grey spaghetti...)

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Posted 21 July 2020 - 20:18

Yeah these are all made in Italy.



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Posted 22 July 2020 - 18:04

but do you mean the resins or the actual pen?... :)



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Posted 23 July 2020 - 06:53

1. The Duetto/CS/Leonardo/Montegrappa stuff I've always know as stacked acrylic. Stipula called it Cellocride when they used it. I don't know if that's a brand name or some kind of portmanteau of acrylic and celluloid...like the Acryloid Visconti used on the Kaleidos. 

 

2. This new stuff is not Arco. It is seriously cool though! Sign me up!



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Posted 23 July 2020 - 09:59

but do you mean the resins or the actual pen?... :)

the resins.  I was looking for the manufacturer, but I can't remember the name of them for the life of me.
I just found it - Sintetica in Italy.
 
At least that's who I think makes this new stuff.  They're who made all the Conway Stewart acrylics, and still do as far as I can tell.
They make gorgeous stuff, but I've never been able to get a reply from them.

 

edit:  Wow their website has improved!

http://sintetica-srl.it/



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