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For the main UK manufacturers (excepting perhaps Mentmore ) there is now an awful lot of reference material available, and one wonders whether there are still undocumented examples out there to be found?

 

I say this now as I have made three separate purchases in the past few days, all "cheap" buys, which if my suspicions are correct are undocumented models from Conway Stewart and Curzon / Summit. I will share more info' when I have inspected the purchases.

 

Until then, my question to the forum is what examples do you have of models you have purchased that were or remain unknown / undocumented within the wider pen collecting community?

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Hello northlodge, like you I have potentially found an unknown Conway Stewart. I bought it because it is made from the peacock plumage material. It is clipless with a flat top, indicating a very early model I should think. I ought receive it by Wednesday next week.

 

It's a bit convoluted but, from what the images show, the number ends in 49. It was listed as a "mini" so either it's a Dinkie Major 649 or an unknown Dandy model.

 

However the single cap band isn't consistent with the thickness of the example in Steve Hull's book, compelling me to think it's a Dandy which would be...well..dandy!

 

I'll write update when I receive the pen.

 

Good luck northlodge, I can't wait to see what you've found!

W.S.P

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Well a few days on and the three pens in question have landed on my desk. One I shall omit from further discussion at this time, as I have not yet been able to identify it at all. The other two are both of interest I believe.

 

THE REVENGE LEVER FILLER

 

I purchased this initially thinking it might be a Curzon made item, but it is quite clearly Conway Stewart - and if I had to guess a model I would think it based upon the CS470 "The Universal Pen".

 

The Book of Numbers mentions several models that appear to be named after ships (HMS) Renown, Repulse, etc. This pen could be from the same stable? I cannot find mention of it elsewhere.

 

fpn_1591900185__revenge.jpg

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The second one is new to me, despite having had a significant number of Summit made pens through my hands. I would suggest this is based upon a S.100 model. The company if refers to was a significant office supplier / marketing company with offices as far afield as New York, as well as Lincoln! It still (just about) exists I believe.

 

THE ROBIN SELF FILLING PEN

 

It came with a Conway Stewart nib, but I feel it would have originally left the factory with a Warranted 14ct example;

 

fpn_1591900599__robin.jpg

 

Whilst the "Revenge" pen is pretty much mint / unused, the "Robin" has seen an active life, but remains a nice example.

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Apologies for the long wait, it turns out my Peacock pen is a Dinkie 540 from the 1930s. Some superb models on show though, I'll let you know if i find something as unusual!

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W.S.P

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