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Phaeton, Hooded Nib Esterbrook


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#1 pajaro

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 00:22

Red with a steel cap hooded nib Esterbrook with a squeeze converter. Thinner than the usual Esterbrook. Something else to investigate.

 

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Edited by pajaro, 20 May 2020 - 01:25.

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 01:37

I think this is a C/C pen.  The converter comes out, and I believe you can insert a cartridge.  Generally, good luck with that, but I think I have used Lamy cartridges in a Safari Esterbook cartridge pen.  The Phaeton pens are a bit pricey.


Edited by pajaro, 20 May 2020 - 01:38.

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 03:28

The pictured Phaeton is not the new Phaeton 300R. It is a vintage pen.

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 09:51

Thank you for posting a photo. I had never seen the vintage ones. The new ones have mixed reviews. I found and restored with a #16 sac a Venus lever fill a few month back that writes very smoothly. However, it appear to be a bit fatter in appearance. I have not seen one since or seen one in as good a condition. 


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Posted 20 May 2020 - 18:07

I posted this pen because we seem to have new people interested in Esterbrook, and I thought it would be interesting to see pics of something you don't run into every day.  Nice to see what one looks like in case you do run across it.  Working converters for vintage Phaeton are worth having.  I think they can be resacced.  I would recommend a synthetic sac, PVC or silicone, in lieu of a latex sac for longer life.  I do not think outgassing from a PVC sac is likely to harm a vintage Esterbrook Phaeton.

 

The Venus is also interesting.  Neither the Venus with hooded nib nor the vintage Esterbrook Phaeton were made in large quantities, so they are both scarce at this late date.


Edited by pajaro, 20 May 2020 - 18:08.

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Posted 20 May 2020 - 21:08

I posted this pen because we seem to have new people interested in Esterbrook, and I thought it would be interesting to see pics of something you don't run into every day.  Nice to see what one looks like in case you do run across it.  Working converters for vintage Phaeton are worth having.  I think they can be resacced.  I would recommend a synthetic sac, PVC or silicone, in lieu of a latex sac for longer life.  I do not think outgassing from a PVC sac is likely to harm a vintage Esterbrook Phaeton.

 

The Venus is also interesting.  Neither the Venus with hooded nib nor the vintage Esterbrook Phaeton were made in large quantities, so they are both scarce at this late date.

 

Thank you for the history of the Venus hooded nib and Phaeton. The Venus has really been a pleaser. I used a #16 sac to replace the petrified one. I have no idea if it was the original. I got interested in Venus because they purchased Esterbrook. From a purely engineering perspective, when posting the cap, it tends to want to slid up under the lever. 


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Posted 22 May 2020 - 04:55

The vintage Esterbrook Phaetons are likely to have asking prices higher than the new 300R Phaetons. There is a desk version of the vintage pen on eBay for about $199. So, if you see a vintage Phaeton more favorably priced, you might want to consider adding it to your collection. I don't know what my pen is worth, and I don't care, it is just an interesting collectible. If you see a vintage Phaeton with a working converter, it will be worth more. Just to give you some info on these pens that are not often mentioned, and give you some info to help you decide if a vintage Phaeton is worth buying.

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Posted 22 May 2020 - 10:58

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Posted 01 June 2020 - 17:43

I need to dig out my Phaeton desk pen and post some photos.



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Posted 19 July 2020 - 19:26

Thanks for posting that picture. I have never seen one like it. Quite like it and will keep an eye open for one that I can afford. Lord knows I have pleanty of extra nibs! :D


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Posted 28 July 2020 - 23:28

I need to dig out my Phaeton desk pen and post some photos.

I would like to see it, the desk pen.  I would think it is rarer. 


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Posted 30 July 2020 - 04:22

Here's the desk pen.

 

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Posted 30 July 2020 - 12:13

You need the gold trim version to make the set...
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Posted 30 July 2020 - 15:18

That's a striking desk pen. What does/did the stand look like?


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Posted 30 July 2020 - 19:11

I only have the pen for this one.



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Posted 30 July 2020 - 19:12

Resembles my Venus hooded nib. 


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Posted 30 July 2020 - 21:31

Here's the desk pen.

 

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Quite like the nib aspect of that pen. Thank you for posting it.


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Posted 30 July 2020 - 21:35

I only have the pen for this one.

What a shame.


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Posted 31 July 2020 - 02:15

I dont know for sure what base is correct. Ive never found a pen with a base but I did find a nearly full box of pens once. They are out there Mulder.
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Posted 31 July 2020 - 04:41

Here's the desk pen.

 

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fpn_1596082876__esterbrook_phaeton_deskp

Thanks for posting the pic.  That's quite interesting, as I had never seen one as far as I can remember, but I lead a sheltered life.


Edited by pajaro, 31 July 2020 - 04:44.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

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