When my interest in fountain pens was rekindled recently I started looking at vintage pens seriously for the first time. I immediately got hooked on the looks of the Estie J-series rippled colors. Ordered two off the bay from two different sellers; the first arrived yesterday and the second today. Both were fitted with new sacs by the sellers but I haven't inked either yet. I did take some pix because boy are they purdy. The copper is an LJ with a 2556 and the gray is a J with a 2668. The gray looks a tad bit greener in person than in the seller's photos, but these pic are calibrated and represent the color accurately. I'm loving them so far.