Titaner Razor - A Pen For The Apocalypse Or The Boardroom

[Sui-Generis]

 

I'm a paramedic, and the physical mechanics of using this pen to break glass are awful. I used a rock, my delike alpha, and a heavy pair of extrication gloves to pop a car window and it took several hard strikes. The pen survived, but my hands ached for days. The only reason I used it was my sprung glass breaker failed.

 

And anyone who thinks they need something like that to defend themselves is a lunatic. Any hard object in the hand would be enough to dissuade a person. A glass breaker just causes the potential for second degree murder charges, as it could easily crack a skull. It ties back into my general hatred of "tactical, EDC" stuff. Civilians don't need tactical stuff unless they just think it looks cool. People who consider themselves "sheepdogs" and do everything from open carry/CCW handguns to tactical automatic knives with the actual idea that these items are for self defense do nothing but make my life as a paramedic all that much harder in real active shooter or dangerous situations. I've seen people who tried to pull their knife to defend themselves get shot rather than just let the mugger have their wallet and only need a new wallet.

 

But I digress. This pen doesn't seem to be overly marketing itself towards that flavor of individual.

 

Back to the logistics of the pen - doesn't it say the cap is lined with plastic or teflon or something to make it sit nicely on the barrel when posted?

 

Also, i was kinda interesed, but it looks like it posts like (bleep) compared to, say, the tactile turn gist. Could yo show how deeply it posts?

Please Badger, not this again.

 

You took an orbital (bleep) on my thread about the utilitarian value of 'tactical' pens months ago, I would thank you to kindly not do so in this thread (especially given that my original post never once mentioned it being any sort of 'tactical' item).

 

As to your question, I double checked and you are right, the specifications do indeed list it has having a "teflon cap liner", having re-checked the inner cap with better lighting I can confirm that 'something' is there (either a clear or silver something, since I mistook it for metal alone) just above the threads.

 

Given this I tried, gently, posting the cap again but have to stick with my original stance of "does not post". While the cap 'fits' on the body technically I wouldn't say it was anywhere close to being securely posted (cap swallows about 3/4" of body before it stops), perhaps you could post the cap securely enough with enough force? But that is something I am not going to find out.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Sui-Generis

[Honeybadgers]

Please Badger, not this again.

 

You took an orbital (bleep) on my thread about the utilitarian value of 'tactical' pens months ago, I would thank you to kindly not do so in this thread (especially given that my original post never once mentioned it being any sort of 'tactical' item).

 

As to your question, I double checked and you are right, the specifications do indeed list it has having a "teflon cap liner", having re-checked the inner cap with better lighting I can confirm that 'something' is there (either a clear or silver something, since I mistook it for metal alone) just above the threads.

 

Given this I tried, gently, posting the cap again but have to stick with my original stance of "does not post". While the cap 'fits' on the body technically I wouldn't say it was anywhere close to being securely posted (cap swallows about 3/4" of body before it stops), perhaps you could post the cap securely enough with enough force? But that is something I am not going to find out.

 

Sorry about that I just have strong opinions about things people do that put my life at risk, and the "tactical/EDC" crowd has absolutely had an increasingly negative influence on that in the past few years, so I'm a little sensitive to it. I have laid into several of my coworkers recently who thought that a logical thing to do during the pandemic was stock up on ammo (that's being heavily marked up)

 

Bit I digress, that's not the point of this thread at all, so no point going further. It's a bummer that it doesn't post properly, I was otherwise kinda interested in buying one. Being titanium, a nice deep posting cap wouldn't throw off the weight and the teflon liner would do a good job at keeping the cap secure (metal on metal can slip off) so it looks like the karas starliner XL, ensso italia and tactile turn gist are still the only main players in the game.

 

I do think the glass breaker is kind of a bad idea as well, just because god help you if it ever got near your phone, watch crystal, glass top desk, etc. Tungsten carbide doesn't just break glass, it scratches everything to heck. Or, *cringe* if it slipped off a desk or table and landed on a ceramic tile floor. That'd be expensive.

 

It is also weird that they only offer a bock F and not any of the other sizes bock makes, from EF to BB.

Edited April 1, 2020 by Honeybadgers

[scratchofapen]

Beside, what does that glass breaker to your pouch or other pens....bad idea...

[Sui-Generis]

Beside, what does that glass breaker to your pouch or other pens....bad idea...

 

So, while walking up to our local shop this evening to get some essentials, I gave your point some serious consideration.

 

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any validity to it.

 

If you are carrying multiple pens on you, chances are they are indeed going to be in a pouch and individually secured. To have the glass breaker be a problem? You would be needing force the pen into a pouch that was too small vertically. User error.

 

Unless you store pens end to end...somehow, I don't see how it could affect other pens 'in general' either, unless you are clumsy & scratch the glass breaker against another pen. User error, again.

 

I even considered that maybe, just maybe, it may poke a hole in the bottom of your pants pocket while you were carrying it. So I tested. In my regular pants the pen bottom/glass breaker is a good 2" away from the bottom of the pocket. Solution - get sensible pants.

 

I've carried a MecArmy TPX22 (ball point, Fisher refill, also titanium) with a glass breaker clipped on the inside of my 'utility' pocket of my pants, along with whatever pocket knife I am carrying that day, for a good few years now, and the pocket that suffers the most? Isn't the utility pocket at all, it's the one where I shove loose change.