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The press 6 times filler shrould would not fit into the later press 4 times connctor. The 6 time filler is screwed in and hence the connector end and the filler shroud both have threads. Yes, you can if you also replace the connector on the pen. And even then you would need a new hood compatible with the connector ie a hood that has no recess for the O ring. :)

 

Yes, and you might switch the parts between the two pens, and make a mess to confound the next restorer.

 

Years ago I had a "press six times" pen, and I heated up the hood too much with the section unscrewed. The filler sheath came off. There was no threading. Uncertain how to reattach it, I asked here, and the answer was to shellac it back on, so I did. I am not sure I still have that pen. I bought a lot of 51s years ago cheap, and have now sold, traded or given most of them away. I found several anomalies in those pens. some were hard to date using a configuration timeline.

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Yes, and you might switch the parts between the two pens, and make a mess to confound the next restorer.

 

Years ago I had a "press six times" pen, and I heated up the hood too much with the section unscrewed. The filler sheath came off. There was no threading. Uncertain how to reattach it, I asked here, and the answer was to shellac it back on, so I did. I am not sure I still have that pen. I bought a lot of 51s years ago cheap, and have now sold, traded or given most of them away. I found several anomalies in those pens. some were hard to date using a configuration timeline.

 

You bring up an important point about restoring these old pens. I recently obtained a "restored" 51, a single line, 1942 I suspect. I decided the seller didn't know what she was doing upon receipt and sent it to Parker51 to be re-restored. If we are going to do something to these old pens, we should at least do it correctly in case a collector down the road wants to experience. Not sure why, but is sort of irritates me that people ruin pens for a fast buck. Perhaps the Hippocratic oath applies.

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Once a pen is yours you can do what you want with or to it.

Once you decide to sell that pen you should report what you did with or to it.

If what you did reduces the value, so be it.

 

I see no moral obligation to maintaining originality.

It may be more fiscally responsible to sell the pen in its original condition and buy something that fits your needs/wants.

Collectors who object to others adulterating “original condition” pen should out-bid or buy these pens to save them.

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Once a pen is yours you can do what you want with or to it.

Once you decide to sell that pen you should report what you did with or to it.

If what you did reduces the value, so be it.

 

I see no moral obligation to maintaining originality.

It may be more fiscally responsible to sell the pen in its original condition and buy something that fits your needs/wants.

Collectors who object to others adulterating “original condition” pen should out-bid or buy these pens to save them.

 

Well said. Completely agree.

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Apparently the same as the seller thought when she used too small a collector and left parts of the old diapharm to float about.

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I recently saw a Parker 51 Special with Vac type feed and shorter vac breather tube. Is the shorter breather tube normal in a Special? If so, it will only fill with about half as much ink as a 51 with a regular, longer breather tube.

 

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Some of the later pens do have a shorter breather tube or plastic breather tubes. Vac 51 feed VS aerometric will make no difference in the performance of the pen, but it won't take an aerometric breather tube because the hole in the end of the feed is a different diameter.

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