Why not turn the whole idea around?
Because this discussion is about why some of us in the hobby are not interested in vintage pens. I gave my answer, and I thought it would be enlightening for me — and perhaps others, including the fellow member who asked me the question in the first place — to hear others' reasons.
If anything I can't understand why people aren't more into vintage pens or at least salvage the nibs.
I hope this thread will help shed light on that very topic. However, there is no implied suggestion that the status quo is something that causes concern for the hobbyist community at large and which ought to be remedied. I'm not advocating for change here. Of course, as I've already pointed out, if the industry starts reproducing the purported desirable characteristics of vintage pens that are "not because of materials and design and age", then that would be change, and a foreseeable consequence of that would be further erosion of consumer/user/hobbyist interest in vintage pens particularly.
The fountain pen "hobby" is not a club exclusively of people who value vintage pens, or at least open to growing appreciation of such, and "we" don't have a common goal of promoting interest in such. That is "why" it is not incumbent on "us" to "turn the whole idea around". Hell, I don't think "we" are even all united in wanting to promote interest and uptake in fountain pens (as a superclass of writing instruments) by today's consumers.
If someone that does not represent "us" all wants, for whatever reason, to mitigate vintage pens' failure to appeal to a larger proportion of hobbyists, or even to make new ground and attract those who don't already love or use fountain pens, that's perfectly fine. I hope the reasons given here by those who are not interested can give them insight, and help them formulate a marketing strategy. Given that the vintage pens are, by definition, no longer being produced, the parties with the most interest in investing effort and resources in promoting vintage pens would be traders of such, in competition against the marketing by manufacturers and retailers of modern fountain pens that are still in production today.
Why should one buy a product that hasn't been innovated for like 60-80 years brand new made in 2020?
There is no "should". However, I'd certainly prefer to buy brand new (made in 2020):
- fountain pen ink (including "traditional" colours and types of ink, such as blue-black iron-gall)
- stainless steel knives and forks
- lead crystal stemware
- leather furniture
- woollen garments
- hand basins, toilet bowls, etc.
even though none of those consumer goods have been "innovated for like 60-80 years"; and I'm not even facetiously suggesting things that are relatively perishable, there in answer to your rhetorical question.
Sure, shiny new materials for barrels and special editions, but does the new pen have a better filling mechanism? Does it have a better nib? Does it have better QC, more nib options?
They don't have to have better designs, better specifications or be better made. We're talking consumer goods here, and the attribute of being brand new (made in 2020) already has inherent virtue, including what is due manufacturers' warranties and consumer law protections that apply today.
It's a shame that Sailor has chosen to significantly cut down the number of speciality Naginata nibs in current production. However, I don't think anyone here is about to claim that any of the 19 Naginata nib types are "vintage"; so, yes, modern fountain pens have more nib options. Pilot offers 14 nib options for the modern Custom 743 model alone, and SEF and SB (which are not in those 14) on the Elabo, and the adjustable nib on the Justus 95; that's seventeen different types and widths, and I'm not even multiplying them out by size (#3, #5, #10, #15, #30) or distinguishing the SF nib on the Elabo from the SF nib on the Custom line (which have different shapes), the F nib on the Custom from the F nib on the Elite 95S, etc. Different stub/italic nib widths? Look to Nemosine and LAMY. Flex nibs, ultra-flex nibs, "architect" or "Hebrew" nibs, etc. are still available in brand new pens. So, no, I don't think brand new pens are confining user choice in that regard.