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Diamine Majestic Blue Vs De Atramentis Steel Blue - An Ink Comparison For A Somewhat Peculiar Reason

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#1 Morbus Curiositas

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Posted 06 March 2020 - 11:17

Diamine Majestic Blue vs De Atramentis Steel Blue

An Ink comparison for a somewhat peculiar reason

 

 

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Notice Diamine and De Atramentis use similar lids

 

 

 

There is of course nothing so special about comparing two inks especially then they are both blue inks.

 

What is peculiar though that they are both very talented at smudging and staining. But  I will come back to this later first have a look at the colours.

I will enter in the links to the more extensive reviews of both inks at the end of this review

 

 

Handwritten text comparison

 

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Let me  "throw up" ;)  another  comparison

 

 

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Q-Tipp comparison

 

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Sheeny Shiny happy Inks yeah

How great both inks sheen The De Atramentis Ink sheen very well but is topped by Sheen Master Majestic Blue

 

 

Judge Smudge :doh: 

 

 

Down here is the reason that  gave  me the idea for this comparison

 

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Both inks smear even after days of  drying time. Just a drop  of spit  on the  finger tip  can cause this  smudging

 

It seems to be quite normal though, some inks tend to smudge alittle  more, they are no  IG  or  document inks  after  all

In this  comparisonThe Diamine seems  to be the  most  talented ;)  when it  cooms  to smudging smudging.

 

I once had Dr. J  of  De Atramentis test the Diamine Majestic Blue. Dr  J Lsaid  that the ink  was perfetly  well... He liked it  a lot! :) 

 

Availability

 

La Couronne du Comte I guess Dennis and Rik would even travel to the moon to get it for you (just pay them a million or 2)  Well it is safe to say that they do almost everything to satisfy their customers… Considering

http://www.lacouronneducomte

 

Bankers have Rothshield Ink lovers have the Goulet Pen Company. Rachel and Brian carry the almost* largest assortment of ink on earth an it's near surroundings    

http://www.gouletpens.com

 

(*almost Dear Amberlea Davis carries the largest assortment in the universe but is not a seller  

 

Larry Post of Australia is a Great Supplier of Stationary and Artist Equipments. They carry a lot of De Atramentis Inks 

http://www.larrypost.com.au/

 

The same applies to Singapore based Arters of the utterly friendly Yitpeng and WeetekOng 

http://arters.com.sg

 

 

Conclusion

 

I  really do like  both inks.  They both are lovely blues. Normally  I am not so fond of blue inks  because they are so standard that i  believe  that they are  mor   sommething for  boring biro writers :lticaptd: these inksmade me change my mind and  I now use blue  inks quite often :) 

 

The Diamine is the better sheener therefore the De Atramentis seems  to " hold his liquor" better ;) 

 

http://www.fountainp...-majestic-blue/

 

 

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 14:43

Have you tried Sailor seiboku? It shades, it sheens, it dries relatively quickly and it doesn't smear at all.


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 16:23

Seiboku is hands down my favorite ink.



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Posted 12 March 2020 - 18:28

Wonderful comparison. Thank you.


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#5 Morbus Curiositas

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 18:38

Have you tried Sailor seiboku? It shades, it sheens, it dries relatively quickly and it doesn't smear at all.

 

No I have not. I like sailor inks though but is seiboku safe for fountain pens?


Das leben ist wie ein Perpetuum Mobile mit ein Mangel..... Immer im Bewegung jedoch nicht unendlich. (life is like a troubled Perpetuum Mobile ever moving but not for ever)

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Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


#6 Morbus Curiositas

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Posted 12 March 2020 - 18:38

Wonderful comparison. Thank you.

You are Welcome


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Tricked throughout the centuries...

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Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 12 March 2020 - 18:39

 

No I have not. I like sailor inks though but is seiboku safe for fountain pens?

Absolutely, and not so different from Steel Blue.



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Posted 12 March 2020 - 19:17

I just recently opened my bottle of Sei Boku and its incredible. Wrapped on the first ink-up today.

 

The cleanup is a little tedious, but i rub my finger over the sheen on the page and nothing moves. It's like magic. And it is a lot of pretty sheen. 

 

I also tested the water resistance and it didn't budge. That ink will outlast the paper. 



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Posted 13 March 2020 - 13:47

Absolutely, and not so different from Steel Blue.

 Are you sure LCC warns not to leave it in a pen not even for a few days

 

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Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 14:19

 Are you sure LCC warns not to leave it in a pen not even for a few days

 

Sailor seiboku lives in my LAMY cp1 — which, incidentally, is one of my favourite pen models, and not something I go out of my way to ruin — for months on end. It hasn't caused any damage to the pen, as far as I'm aware, even though some ink evaporation has been evident (because the ink that gets put down becomes much darker, a few weeks after refilling the converter). I have no qualms putting Sailor (né Nano) pigment inks in more expensive pens, and my habit is almost always to leave ink in my pens after refilling, until it has run out or run dry completely, before flushing and cleaning; I don't like dumping half a converter's worth of ink either down the drain or back into the bottle, and wanting to "protect" the pen isn't reason enough for me to do so.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 14:26

 

Sailor seiboku lives in my LAMY cp1 — which, incidentally, is one of my favourite pen models, and not something I go out of my way to ruin — for months on end. It hasn't caused any damage to the pen, as far as I'm aware, even though some ink evaporation has been evident (because the ink that gets put down becomes much darker, a few weeks after refilling the converter). I have no qualms putting Sailor (né Nano) pigment inks in more expensive pens, and my habit is almost always to leave ink in my pens after refilling, until it has run out or run dry completely, before flushing and cleaning; I don't like dumping half a converter's worth of ink either down the drain or back into the bottle, and wanting to "protect" the pen isn't reason enough for me to do so.

 

 

Well maybe  will try some in my Lamy Safari but certainly not in my Sailor, Dupont or Pelikans

 

 

Thanks


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Tricked throughout the centuries...

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In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 14:26

I just recently opened my bottle of Sei Boku and its incredible. Wrapped on the first ink-up today.

 

The cleanup is a little tedious, but i rub my finger over the sheen on the page and nothing moves. It's like magic. And it is a lot of pretty sheen. 

 

I also tested the water resistance and it didn't budge. That ink will outlast the paper. 

 

 

What do you mean by tedious?


Das leben ist wie ein Perpetuum Mobile mit ein Mangel..... Immer im Bewegung jedoch nicht unendlich. (life is like a troubled Perpetuum Mobile ever moving but not for ever)

Tricked throughout the centuries...

For centuries people had been tricked by kings & "religion-alism"

In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 15:03

Well maybe  will try some in my Lamy Safari but certainly not in my Sailor, Dupont or Pelikans

 

In my firsthand experience, the LAMY Safari's cap doesn't seal nearly as well as the one on the LAMY cp1, and will allow ink to evaporate and dry out in the pen more rapidly. The caps on my Sailor and Pelikan pens are far superior in that regard. The ink is not a hazard to the pen; allowing the ink to dry out in the pen is the problem, and that has nothing to do with the price of the particular pen. If you want to only try it in a cheap pen, then use the ink in a Platinum Plaisir/Prefounte/Preppy with the Slip-and-Seal mechanism.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 15:13

 

In my firsthand experience, the LAMY Safari's cap doesn't seal nearly as well as the one on the LAMY cp1, and will allow ink to evaporate and dry out in the pen more rapidly. The caps on my Sailor and Pelikan pens are far superior in that regard. The ink is not a hazard to the pen; allowing the ink to dry out in the pen is the problem, and that has nothing to do with the price of the particular pen. If you want to only try it in a cheap pen, then use the ink in a Platinum Plaisir/Prefounte/Preppy with the Slip-and-Seal mechanism.

 

 

 

In that case I maybe schould try it in my Pilot 3776 since it has that special seal mechanism in the Cap

 

 

Only rhing is that it has the Ultra Extra Fine Nib hope that is not a Problem


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In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 15:22

I have several Platinum #3776 Century pens, but none with an UEF nib. However, I have kept my Sailor Promenade — which has a gold EF nib that puts down a very narrow line — inked with Sailor kiwaguro (in the same series of pigment inks as seiboku) for months, and it hasn't caused a problem. I only switched that ink out less than 48 hours ago, to put a different pigment ink (Platinum Carbon Black) in that pen instead.


As always:  1. Implicit in everything and every instance I write on FPN is the invitation for you to judge me as a peer in the community. I think it's only due respect to take each other's written word in online discussion seriously and apply critical judgment.  2. I do not presume to judge for you what is right, correct or valid. If I make a claim, or refute a statement in a thread, and link to references and other information in support, I beseech you to review and consider those, and judge for yourself. I may be wrong. My position or say-so carries no more weight than anyone else's here, and external parties can speak for themselves with what they have published.  3. I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable. If it is something you can test for yourself and see the results, I entreat you to do so.


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 15:35

I have several Platinum #3776 Century pens, but none with an UEF nib. However, I have kept my Sailor Promenade — which has a gold EF nib that puts down a very narrow line — inked with Sailor kiwaguro (in the same series of pigment inks as seiboku) for months, and it hasn't caused a problem. I only switched that ink out less than 48 hours ago, to put a different pigment ink (Platinum Carbon Black) in that pen instead.

 

Thanks for your advice


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Tricked throughout the centuries...

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In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 13 March 2020 - 16:34

 Are you sure LCC warns not to leave it in a pen not even for a few days

Yeah, I'm sure.  I've had a single fill in a Pilot Stargazer, F for ~2.5 months, with no flow or performance problems.  I do like to gently rub the feed-side of the nib after long, slow use as a black discoloration builds up there, but that's the extent of extra cleaning required.  I assume the black is whatever pigment goes in as the "black" portion of the "blue black".  I'd guess that the next ink would have flushed it out, but I'm slightly obsessive about cleaning before taking a pen out of rotation.



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Posted 14 March 2020 - 18:30

Fun comparison, thank you. I like the colour of de De Atramentis Steel Blue, not so much the smudging you mention. From the comments I get that Sailor Seiboku has a similar colour, and better behaviour. I will put that one on my "maybe" list - I have too many inks already that are begging for a try.



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Posted 15 March 2020 - 13:09

Fun comparison, thank you. I like the colour of de De Atramentis Steel Blue, not so much the smudging you mention. From the comments I get that Sailor Seiboku has a similar colour, and better behaviour. I will put that one on my "maybe" list - I have too many inks already that are begging for a try.

 

Graag Gedaan  ;)  For me that Sei boku is on my maybe list...

 

I love sailor inks just anxious a bout Sei Bokuin Fountain Pens


Das leben ist wie ein Perpetuum Mobile mit ein Mangel..... Immer im Bewegung jedoch nicht unendlich. (life is like a troubled Perpetuum Mobile ever moving but not for ever)

Tricked throughout the centuries...

For centuries people had been tricked by kings & "religion-alism"

In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

Today people get tricked by (neo)capitalism  :) 


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Posted 03 April 2020 - 11:01

recently bought a bottle of Majestic Blue n it is wonderful. Good legibility in all of my pens, not too wet, reveals the nib grind yet providing sufficient lubrication and glide.





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