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Right back at ya Moonman?!? This one looks like it might come from the same resin lot and with those shiny threads, even the same factory as the recent Moonman Leo clone... :huh:

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So many restoration projects...

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Right back at ya Moonman?!? This one looks like it might come from the same resin lot and with those shiny threads, even the same factory as the recent Moonman Leo clone... :huh:

 

 

Right... Moonman used Italian Acrylic and has a factory in Italy...

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Right... Moonman used Italian Acrylic and has a factory in Italy...

 

Two companies sharing the same materials and the same designs?

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Two companies sharing the same materials and the same designs?

 

 

As per Leonardo's specs they use Italian Acrylics and and turn their pens in Italy so I don't see Moonman using the same acrylic for the prices they charge. I expect Moonman and other companies use mass produced acrylic. But for all we know the acrylic is used in some other industry and sells it in mass outside of Italy... In this case the amber acrylic doesn't look quite the same. But the acrylic Edison has used for years does look almost exactly like the stuff used by PenBBS, Moonman, Hero, etc. I expect some factory is suppling a number of companies with acrylic.

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with those shiny threads, even the same factory as the recent Moonman Leo clone... :huh:

Hmm, maybe the material is the same with Edison, Conklin, Pen BBS and Moonman, but what about the thread? M800 does not have metal thread. Maybe you are refering to N3? I'm not sure Messenger looks like a copy of N3.

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Sheesh... The Messenger design does not appeal at all to me.

Don't know but it just doesn't have that x-factor that the Momento Zero and Furore has.

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Right back at ya Moonman?!?

 

I was thinking the same thing. :o

 

It looks so Moonmanish to me and such a departure from classico Italiano Momento Zero and Furore designs

 

I get the limited edition artificial scarcity run and JoWo nibs could be a draw but it looks in the same class as Pineider Avatar :rolleyes:

 

I guess if Messenger gets a successful sell out Moonman will come up right behind with another "homage" B)

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Looking at the Messenger even closely the more I am turned off.

The overall shape, the center band, the metallic threaded part on the grip section. I have a feeling this won't get as much love as their Momento Zero / Furore.

 

Update : Just heard from the PenBoyRoy podcast that the Messenger in Caramel acrylic is actually taken from Taiwan so there is a probability that Leonardo is using the same acrylic as the ones in the PenBBS and Moonman pens. In the podcast Roy mentioned the Amber color and not the Caramel but I see no color named Amber in the Messenger line so I guess he wrongly said the color name.

 

Also if anyone is questioning the credibility, Roy I believe is quite close to the guys at Leonardo Officina Italiana so there should be some truth to what he said.

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Looking at the Messenger even closely the more I am turned off.

The overall shape, the center band, the metallic threaded part on the grip section. I have a feeling this won't get as much love as their Momento Zero / Furore.

 

Update : Just heard from the PenBoyRoy podcast that the Messenger in Caramel acrylic is actually taken from Taiwan so there is a probability that Leonardo is using the same acrylic as the ones in the PenBBS and Moonman pens. In the podcast Roy mentioned the Amber color and not the Caramel but I see no color named Amber in the Messenger line so I guess he wrongly said the color name.

 

Also if anyone is questioning the credibility, Roy I believe is quite close to the guys at Leonardo Officina Italiana so there should be some truth to what he said.

 

 

Maybe he is right. I was checking the dealers and while Goldspot Pens says it's Italian Acrylic, sites like Fontoplumo and Stilografica don't say and Goldspot seems like they are mostly using placeholder info.

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