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Montblanc Meisterstuck Nikolai I Rollerball

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#1 monsieurblanc

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 03:32

hi all

bought this pen some 20 years ago in singapore at montblanc boutique and no longer have the box and tags. i've tried to get help identifying and getting the specs but cannot get much other than some contradictory info online. montblanc hasnt been very helpful, unfortunately.

does anyone know about this pen? any info and/or background on this pen would be greatly appreciated. 

thx and cheers!

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#2 roadrunner320

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 07:36

Yes, I know this pen, but decided to go with Ramses II.

What you like to know about this pen?



#3 monsieurblanc

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 13:19

thanks for your reply. what i would like to know is exactly what this pen is classified as: is it a legrande or a solitaire? what montblanc model number is it (162, 165, etc.) what is montblanc's official desgnation/description? is the nib or any other part gold or gold plated? is it classified as a rollerball or a ballpoint? i understand this info is quite basic but there is so much contradictory info and misnaming/mis-describing on the web that I now question even those basics.

your feedback and assistance to clear things up would be greatly appreciated.

thx and regards



#4 Kalessin

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 17:42

The pen is a Czar Nikolai I Vermeil Rollerball.

 

The model number is 22162, this model is based off of the Meisterstuck 162 "Le Grand" Rollerball.

 

The model number is 22163, this model is based off the Meisterstuck 163 Rollerball.

 

The Czar Nikolai series consisted of a large fountain pen (146-size piston filler), small fountain pen (144-size cartridge/converter filler), extra-small fountain pen (114 "Mozart"-size cartridge filler), ballpoint, rollerball and pencil models, in vermeil (gold plated over silver) and platinum plated over brass.

 

You have a very nice pen!


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Posted 28 January 2020 - 18:05

thx so much for sharing your knowledge and insight, kalessin. greatly appreciated. might i ask if you have an idea what the present day value of this particular vintage pen is? a best guesstimate?

cheers! 



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Posted 28 January 2020 - 18:41

You're welcome!

 

The best indicator of current value would be completed auctions and sales on eBay (and similar completed sales on other sites).


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chiefly used to facilitate the infection of idiocy and promote intellectual crime.
(from The Devil's Dictionary, by Ambrose Bierce)

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Posted 28 January 2020 - 20:50

understood. thx again for your kind assistance.

cheers!



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Posted 28 January 2020 - 22:48

I am not sure that is the Le Grand size. That looks to me to be the classique size (163) roller ball, which is the smaller of the two. Value depends on the condition but I would say approximately $700-1000 is a fair value.



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Posted 29 January 2020 - 04:59

I am not sure that is the Le Grand size. That looks to me to be the classique size (163) roller ball, which is the smaller of the two. Value depends on the condition but I would say approximately $700-1000 is a fair value.



Indeed it is not LeGrand.
LeGrand version also existed, but was bigger and had a screw-on cap.

#10 monsieurblanc

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 14:51

thx for the feedback. difficult to know for sure which info is more accurate but all is helpful.

cheers



#11 Kalessin

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Posted 29 January 2020 - 21:25

I am not sure that is the Le Grand size. That looks to me to be the classique size (163) roller ball, which is the smaller of the two. Value depends on the condition but I would say approximately $700-1000 is a fair value.

 

You are quite right!  I updated the model number in my first reply on this thread.

 

I find it interesting that Montblanc released such a wide variety of Meisterstuck sizes and writing modes (fountain pen, rollerball, pencil, ballpoint) in this design, probably because of very strong sales.


-- Joel -- "I collect expensive and time-consuming hobbies."

INK (noun): A villainous compound of tannogallate of iron, gum-arabic and water,
chiefly used to facilitate the infection of idiocy and promote intellectual crime.
(from The Devil's Dictionary, by Ambrose Bierce)





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