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Curious About Actual Numbers Of Cracked Pilot 823 Pens


David R Munson

Pilot 823: crack or no crack?  

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  1. 1. If you own or have owned a Pilot 823, did it crack?



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I’ve been thinking about this today: we’ve all heard about Pilot 823s developing cracks, and I don’t doubt that it happens, but I suspect that the actual numbers aren’t as dire as internet search results might suggest. And I suspect this because people with a problem tend to be vocal, but nobody speaks up when everything is fine. I also suspect that the vast majority of these pens are completely fine.So, a simple poll. If you own or have owned a Pilot 823, did it crack?

Please only vote in the poll if you actually have one or used to have one.

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Your premise, "we’ve all heard about Pilot 823s developing cracks" suffers a credibility issue.

 

I've never heard of any Pilot pen cracking. I've heard of the issue with TWSBI. How did you come to believe this is a widespread problem, or even a widespread notion?

 

My 823 may be my top pen, and it gets used all the time without problem one.

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I own 2. Best pens especially nibs after the 845. One is Masuyama RNCI. Not the slightest flaw whatever wise. Maybe the looks... i own prettier pens, even then, it's ok.

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I also own two and have disassembled both numerous times to clean them and have had no issues with cracking. I could see while re-assembling the pen and over tightening could cause a crack.

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Your premise, "weve all heard about Pilot 823s developing cracks" suffers a credibility issue.

 

I've never heard of any Pilot pen cracking. I've heard of the issue with TWSBI. How did you come to believe this is a widespread problem, or even a widespread notion?

Absolutely no credibility issue at hand. Its something that comes up with nearly every mention of Pilot pens in other corners of the internet, and even occasionally here. I do not believe that its a widespread problem in reality, but there are some people who are convinced that it is a common problem and repeat it endlessly, especially in discussion of the 823 and to a lesser extent the CH 92. It has become something of a persistent myth, not unlike Lamy 2000 quality control. Edited by David R Munson
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No problem with mine, but I never take apart the section side of the pen as per Pilots instructions not to. I have taken it apart from the back for cleaning.

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I do not know how to answer this one, got a 823, everything OK, but also got several friends having it and out of a total of 6 between us, 2 do develop cracks, and in fact I should state 3, one actually come with a crack NIB, the pen was duly returned and exchanged. So I say the % is a bit worrying

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I own two and one cracked. Guess I'm in the minority.

The one that cracked I bought second hand and the previous owner used to unscrew the body to clean it out.

That's how they usually crack, by over-tightening the body. The crack happened exactly over the screws...

It's where the barrel is weakest and id doesn't take much.

At first mine was a micro-crack that I couldn't even see (but ink seeped through).

Eventually the crack was visible.

 

I've talked to a bunch of people who had their 823 crack as well, and mostly it has happened at the same place.

 

If you don't unscrew the body, or if you do it very carefully (Pilot doesn't recommend it btw) you should be fine.

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Based on cracking reports when it came time for my plunger system to be greased I made sure to dismantle from the plunger side, not the section side. I’ve had no issues. Fantastic pen. Mine is now a number of years old and has seen its fair share of use as it is my dedicated travel pen and I travel a lot.

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I've only known of one cracking that was not down to the present or previous owner disassembling the pen for cleaning (and presumably over tightening the threads) and that was half way down the barrel and appeared to be a manufacturing fault as it was a new pen - more than likely something knocked it at the wrong angle and with some force/weight.

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Thanks, everyone, for your votes and comments! I know we aren't going to get the biggest sample size here, but it's still something.

 

For the record, I do not have an 823, but not because of the theoretical cracking problem. Just saving that purchase for a personal reward once I achieve a big personal goal later this year. :)

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I've been using my only 823 daily for about ten months. So far so good.

 

The only (and very minor) modifications I made were to swap the nib and remove the "stopper" O ring so i don't have to unscrew the end-cap.

 

I dropped the pen once, about a month after I got it. No damage. No cracks.

 

Since I haven't changed the ink, I haven't felt any compulsion to clean the pen thoroughly; only flushed it once with water between fills, not for any problem, just thought it might be a good idea.

 

My 823 is my daily favorite and a workhorse. I hadn't heard of cracking issues until I read this thread.

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For the record, I do not have an 823, but not because of the theoretical cracking problem. Just saving that purchase for a personal reward once I achieve a big personal goal later this year. :)

I do not understand how a cracking issue - or any issue - can be 'theoretical. If it happened, then it happened. If it did not, then it did not.

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I do not understand how a cracking issue - or any issue - can be 'theoretical. If it happened, then it happened. If it did not, then it did not.

 

It's a question of whether or not it's an actual prevalent problem or mostly just the echoes of a few people with bad luck complaining loudly. Every product will have the occasional defective example or a handful that break due to user error, but it doesn't mean that the product itself is bad, as some people elsewhere on the internet like to shout about.

 

 

I have one, no cracking, but I don't use it...

 

I know a guy who could take it off your hands, cheap

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It's a question of whether or not it's an actual prevalent problem or mostly just the echoes of a few people with bad luck complaining loudly. Every product will have the occasional defective example or a handful that break due to user error, but it doesn't mean that the product itself is bad, as some people elsewhere on the internet like to shout about.

 

 

 

 

right, so the purpose and point of this thread is to dispel the myth that Pilot823 has product/material problems, or that cracking is a prevalent problem. And you are trying to conclude from your poll results that Pilot823 does not have material/product problem, without having owned one yourself?

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right, so the purpose and point of this thread is to dispel the myth that Pilot823 has product/material problems, or that cracking is a prevalent problem. And you are trying to conclude from your poll results that Pilot823 does not have material/product problem, without having owned one yourself?

 

This thread is simply a matter of curiosity. Beyond that, I'm not going to waste my time trying to reason with you.

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