Jump to content

Red Ink As An Indulgence For New York Shakers In 1810


AAAndrew

Recommended Posts

My research into the US steel dip pen industry has taken me to the early Shaker communities in upstate New York. It seems at one point one of the congregation got into trouble for making red ink. It was condemned because it was not in line with their life of austerity and simplicity. Variously described as "superfluities" "curiosities" "needless notions" it seems that some were misusing it, and that's why it was restricted.

 

Isaac Youngs, one of the best known of these early Shaker inventors and a manufacturer of everything from clothing to clocks to architecture, writes that he had been asked by some of the boys he was teaching how to make red ink. He thought it better to make some himself and give them just a little bit rather than show them how to make it themselves. "I thought it not proper to let them [make it themselves], for they might make great labor of it to no profit - so I thought best to make some and give them - and though I expected to use some myself, I had always been reserved in the use of it; not to write any sacred thing with it. But I have observed that there has been considerable of a use of it for fancy's sake; this is what Mother [Lucy, the spiritual head of the Shakers] dislikes.And I think had it not been for such unsuitable treatment of ink, it would not have been rejected."

 

Unfortunately we don't have his recipe for red ink.

 

So, write with some red ink today and be fancy!

 

“When the historians of education do equal and exact justice to all who have contributed toward educational progress, they will devote several pages to those revolutionists who invented steel pens and blackboards.” V.T. Thayer, 1928

Check out my Steel Pen Blog

"No one is exempt from talking nonsense; the mistake is to do it solemnly."

-Montaigne

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 10
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • BaronWulfraed

    2

  • sombrueil

    1

  • AAAndrew

    1

  • bemon

    1

Interesting stuff! I always like to see how society has changed it's ideas of what's normal and acceptable over time.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Shakers were a very austere group dedicated to an intense spirituality in community. Monastic in feeling but with that Protestant revulsion towards ornament.

 

Red ink was of course used in (and is still so used) in Catholic lectionaries, breviaries and missals to indicate directions. Hence "rubric".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Google came up with this recipe for red ink in case you're having "needless notions"

"This instructable shows how to make a simple red ink, similar to the sort used throughout history. I am using a recipe from Pliny the Elder's Natural Histories. The recipe calls for gum Arabic, water and cinnabar in nearly equal parts."

Edited by OCArt

...............................................................

We Are Our Ancestors’ Wildest Dreams

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<ouch>

 

Given the current treatment of mercury (breaking an old thermometer qualifies as a hazmat superfund cleanup)... Making ink out of mercury sulfide may not be easy to do...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This was super interesting to read! I bought some red ink (Pelikan 4001) recently to write a letter, I hope they don't take it the wrong way! :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've used Pinkly! several times this past week, I suppose that counts as frivolity.

It's hard work to tell which is Old Harry when everybody's got boots on.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've used Pinkly! several times this past week, I suppose that counts as frivolity.

:yikes: Extravagance and conspicuous consumption!

 

Pity Levenger discontinued that color... I've got about a third of a bottle left and have avoided using it due to rarity.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for posting this, AAAndrew. I enjoy your in-depth research on pens and have always found the Shakers deeply interesting as well.

 

Sombrueil's point about red ink in Catholic texts is excellent too. The Shakers would have been horrified by any inadvertent lapse into Popery.

 

Note to self: Need to buy some scandalous or devout (depending on my mood) scarlet red ink. The reddest I have at present is Diamine Oxblood.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sometimes I think that if college students had to brew the beer they drink, they would appreciate it more, drink less, and learn biology, chemistry, and lab technique in the process. But it's probably not a good idea.

Reviews and articles on Fountain Pen Network

 

CHINA, JAPAN, AND INDIA

Hua Hong Blue Belter | Penbbs 456 | Stationery | ASA Nauka in Dartmoor and Ebonite | ASA Azaadi | ASA Bheeshma | ASA Halwa | Ranga Model 8 and 8b | Ranga Emperor

ITALY AND THE UK

FILCAO Roxi | FILCAO Atlantica | Italix Churchman's Prescriptor

USA, INK, AND EXPERIMENTS

Bexley Prometheus | Route 54 Motor Oil | Black Swan in Icelandic Minty Bathwater | Robert Oster Aqua | Diamine Emerald Green | Mr. Pen Radiant Blue | Three Oysters Giwa | Flex Nib Modifications | Rollstoppers

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sometimes I think that if college students had to brew the beer they drink, they would appreciate it more, drink less, and learn biology, chemistry, and lab technique in the process. But it's probably not a good idea.

 

don't try it too hard, cause in my ( long ago ) college years, we actually did that ( and yes it taste better whether its real or not ) ; but then I recall I've done many stupid, crazy and needless to say somewhat anti-social things in those days.

 

as for the red ink that reminds me of the Brits obsession with green ink

Edited by Mech-for-i
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33559
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26746
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...