Jump to content

Pen Id Request. Upcoming Sale


Luckyorlean

Recommended Posts

There is an upcoming sale and a picture has been posted with some interesting looking pens. Any ideas on the purple and woodgrain one would be appreciated. Apologies that there is not much to go on here, this is the only photo available.

 

 

post-144720-0-32765200-1575505473_thumb.jpg

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 18
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Luckyorlean

    8

  • inkstainedruth

    3

  • Parker51

    2

  • praxim

    2

Sorry no can help.

Are they lever, or cartridge pens.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry no can help.

Are they lever, or cartridge pens.

 

Thank you for taking a look. Unfortunately that is the only picture that is available. I hope to be able to get a better look at the sale this weekend.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

They resemble a couple of Onotos. That red or pink pearl effect was a common colour for them in later pens. If so, it could be either lever or plunge fill. The woodgrain might be an interesting pen (for me). It might be a 2000 or 3000 series, with plunge filler which would almost certainly need complete servicing.

 

The two on the left could be almost anything from the late 1940s on. If the others are Onotos then possibly they are the late K series piston fill. A long bow is being drawn here.

X

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Luckyorlean, the clips on the left two are wrong for an Onoto K (on review) so ignore my speculation on those ones in favour of

The 2 pens on the left are Parker UK Duofold (possibly Senior ?)

X

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you all very much. Good information on the Parkers, and the wood grain one has me really curios! If I am able to get them I will post up pictures as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I was able to get to the pens first at the sale! :D

 

I bought 3, the black, green and woodgrain. The black and green are Parker Slimfolds, and the woodgrain is a Mobie Todd Swan clipless SF1, so very thrilled with these. This is the first Swan I have gotten. All are made in England.

 

The last one I believe was a steel nib and I could not identify it and I left it behind. Mistake for $15 CDN??? Here are a couple of pictures I took at the sale. I will also put up some pictures of the other this evening or in the morning, I am on the run right now. Thank you again for the presale input.

 

post-144720-0-72024700-1575740985_thumb.jpg

post-144720-0-13057500-1575741009_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Congratulations! I'll bet you had fun there. Without knowing what it was, that woodgrain had me curious.

It was, the owners had taken very good care of everything that was there. The Swan is in excellent condition considering the age of 90+ years. The barrel is not faded, and there are no cracks or big scratches. It is stuck together and I will send it out for service from a pro as I will not mess around with a nice hard rubber pen like this. Here are a couple of pictures.

 

Mobie Todd Swan clipless SF1

 

post-144720-0-94078900-1575905981_thumb.jpg

 

post-144720-0-86155900-1575906020_thumb.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by Luckyorlean
Link to comment
Share on other sites

So, reading this thread made me curious about Slimfolds (I was not familiar with the model at all), so I went to my source for all things Parker -- Tony Fischier's site (parkercollector.com). And now I'm even more curious. The article says the the model was redesigned in the 1960s, and it sounds as if they were c/c pens like the contemporary model Parker 45s. But what sort of fill system did the earlier models from the 1950s have? Because when I saw the OP's linked photo, my initial thought was that the black one in particular looked a fair amount like the shape of a Laidtone Duofold (which were either button fillers or -- later -- Vac-style fillers. So would the Slimfold also have been a Vac filler, or would it have been a button filler like the earlier Laidtones? Or would it have been some other type of fill system?

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Parker Slimfolds were Aerometric fill. The early ones are nice, the later ones, the New Slimfold not so much as the qualities of the pen changed as the pen was "modernized" and it is basically a UK made slightly shorter, with a screw cap, Parker 45 as it was made of the same plastic as the 45, uses the same nib unit and the same cartridge and convertor. I have the pens I am referring to and in either case, the pens are small for my size extra large hands.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Parker Slimfolds were Aerometric fill. The early ones are nice, the later ones, the New Slimfold not so much as the qualities of the pen changed as the pen was "modernized" and it is basically a UK made slightly shorter, with a screw cap, Parker 45 as it was made of the same plastic as the 45, uses the same nib unit and the same cartridge and convertor. I have the pens I am referring to and in either case, the pens are small for my size extra large hands.

 

Thanks for the information.

Every time I learn about a different model Parker I suddenly go "Hmmmm" -- I did that when I first learned about 51s. I did that when I said "Nope, don't want a Vac" (then saw an Azure Blue Maxima that someone had, and did a *complete* 180...). I did that with 61s, I did that with the Laidtone Duofolds, I did it when I found a Parker 45 for cheap in an antiques mall in northwest PA, and I did it last winter when I saw a ciselé finish Parker 75 at an estate sale (didn't buy it and now regretting it, because it was a decent price). And now I'm maybe doing it again with the Slimfolds....

I think I'm doomed....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

So, reading this thread made me curious about Slimfolds (I was not familiar with the model at all),....

 

Here are some pictures of these ones, which I think are very nice! They are 5 inches with the cap on.

 

Parker Slimfolds were Aerometric fill. The early ones are nice, the later ones, the New Slimfold not so much as the qualities of the pen changed as the pen was "modernized" and it is basically a UK made slightly shorter, with a screw cap, Parker 45 as it was made of the same plastic as the 45, uses the same nib unit and the same cartridge and convertor. I have the pens I am referring to and in either case, the pens are small for my size extra large hands.

 

I have a couple of 45s and comparing them to the Slimfolds am I safe to say that these are the original ones? The gold nibs are certainly different than the steel on the 45s I have.

 

post-144720-0-47154500-1576014157_thumb.jpg

post-144720-0-78685100-1576014176_thumb.jpg

post-144720-0-83177400-1576014187_thumb.jpg

post-144720-0-37313700-1576014196_thumb.jpg

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for posting the pix, especially of the fill system and the nibs (it's interesting that the nibs say *both* "14K" and "585" -- but *don't* say what I was told was the British form of "14C"....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for posting the pix, especially of the fill system and the nibs (it's interesting that the nibs say *both* "14K" and "585" -- but *don't* say what I was told was the British form of "14C"....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

Yes, it does seem a redundant to put both 14k and 585. And the "5" denotes the pen as a Slimfold and is not a nib reference number. The Swan uses 14C, which is the first pen I have seen with that notation. I read on another thread from a few years ago that c = carat in English, K = Karat in German. I guess over time the use of K has been adopted as the standard.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, you have the earlier Slimfolds not the New Slimfold. Perhaps I was too harsh regarding the New Slimfold, it is a competent pen, but it is so simialer to the 45; using so many of the same parts and materials and being in some rather unremarkable colors so as to be a bit boring to me. Still, it is a better Fountain Pen than many modern Fountain Pens and should not be ignored, especially if one uses cartridges.

Back to the pens you have; very nice and a great alternative to modern pens of simialer size and weight due to both the excellent nibs and filling mechanisms, and despite being light pens, they don't feel cheap or insubstantial.

I expect that as the proportion of Fountain Pen users and collectors skews back to more towards those with smaller hands pens such as these will become more valued, just as their perceived value decreased as the hands of users and collectors had in the past skewed larger.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you for the information. Next step is to send the Swan off to a pro and I am going to clean up the Parkers more thoroughly. A quick flush of the black one and it filled and wrote nicely. The Parker sacs and mechanics really were top rate.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have some slimfolds. They are one of the cheapest ways to get a pen with a 14K nib.

 

Trouble is that the Slimfold was primarily designed as a school pen, which means they suffered a lot of abuse. So finding one in excellent condition is difficult. Bent nibs and all that.

 

I have three. One is in excellent condition and the other two, less so.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33494
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26624
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...