Remove Logo From Cap

[Bluto Carpaccio]

Hi, all,

 

Is it possible to remove the logo from the inner cap of a M1000?

 

Thanks, Bluto

[hari317]

The logo button is glued on to the inner cap. Why do you want to separate them?

[Bo Bo Olson]

???????????????? ...................why?

[Bluto Carpaccio]

Thanks Bobo and Hari,

 

I don't mean to start anything here. I can't justify the cost of of one of the beautiful Pelican LE's but I do have a very nice turquoise stone that size that might look nice in a gold setting on an otherwise majestic and imposing but somewhat staid pen. I hope that's not heresy.

 

Bluto

[Ron Z]

 

I hope that's not heresy.

 

Well, we may (do) think it is, but its your pen.

 

The Pelikan logo on top is part of the inner cap. To get the inner cap out you unscrew the trim ring, which loosens the clip and lets the inner cap drop out of the cap. You can then cut the top of the inner cap off, or whatever. You do want to make sure that the OD of the stone is smaller than the ID of the trim ring. Otherwise you won't be able to get the trim ring on, or get the trim ring off again if you need to repair or replace either the cap or or inner cap.

 

I wouldn't attach the stone with the inner cap in place because you can end up with a mess if not done carefully, and it may make it impossible to repair the cap. A replacement cap isn't cheap. The cap for the smaller 400 series pens is $50 plus shipping, so I would expect the 1000 cap to be much more than that. Adding the stone will also effect the value of the pen significantly.

[Bluto Carpaccio]

Thanks all. If I decide to be heretical, I'll post a picture from the dark side...

[Bo Bo Olson]

As the old saying goes..........."It's your pen"........you heretic .

Suggest you get your lapadarian and a pen repair man together to get exact detentions....of a rather flat stone***........well a Cabochon, might well be worth thinking of, ...if so, whole hog.

 

As mentioned...the value of the pen will take a huge hit.

 

***If a flat stone, I'm sure there are other semi-precious stones with more 'sparkle', than turquoise.

And perhaps someone who knows stones could recommend something a bit harder....that would stand out well. or in a Cabochon.(Tiger Eye moonstone? may be too soft.)

[Bluto Carpaccio]

Thanks all, for the advice. And I'll surely follow yours, BoBo. I think I'll try to find an inner cap used, or new, to experiment with and keep the original to replace if necessary. Here's a picture of an old ebonite pen gave me the idea:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/uploads/imgs/fpn_1574824806__turquoise_finial.jpg

[Glenn-SC]

It is YOUR pen!
Do what YOU want with it.

There is no heresy involved with altering YOUR pen.

It may make it worth less to other people but that should only matter to you should you ever intend to resell the pen.

[Fuzzy_Bear]

Turquoise being my birth stone, I like the idea.

[Bo Bo Olson]

That gold/copper striated turquoise, is a bit lively than the blue and black that I envisioned.

 

good luck.

[A Smug Dill]

It is YOUR pen!

Do what YOU want with it.

There is no heresy involved with altering YOUR pen.

I couldn't agree more! If the incumbent owner has clear title to the item, then it's his/her pen, not Pelikan (the company)'s and not Pelikan fans' pen. If the O.P. wants to saw pen the barrel in two, snap the nib in half, paint some part of it with graffiti to suit his personal style or 'signature', or whatever and find additional value personally in doing so, that's not defacement or wanton destruction. I would think that fans of enthusiasts would be glad to hear that Pelikan pens' value is not limited by what they personally cherish, but also open to other people's disparate choices and applications so that the brand is more appealing to others who don't all share the same views and values, which are worth nothing on paper.

[Biber]

I couldn't agree more! If the incumbent owner has clear title to the item, then it's his/her pen, not Pelikan (the company)'s and not Pelikan fans' pen. If the O.P. wants to saw pen the barrel in two, snap the nib in half, paint some part of it with graffiti to suit his personal style or 'signature', or whatever and find additional value personally in doing so, that's not defacement or wanton destruction. I would think that fans of enthusiasts would be glad to hear that Pelikan pens' value is not limited by what they personally cherish, but also open to other people's disparate choices and applications so that the brand is more appealing to others who don't all share the same views and values, which are worth nothing on paper.

 

How interesting. And I agree wholeheartedly by the way. But it would seem that there are certain pen makers who don't seem to agree with post purchase ownership of a pen. Case in point, quite a while ago I managed to obtain what had long been a grail pen for me. When I got it I wasn't happy with the nib. I wanted something finer that the typical blob-tipped IPG nib that it came with. Fortunately it had a screw in nib so I had the option of replacing it. Unfortunately, however, it was threaded for a brand of modular nib that had since fallen out of favor and had become a relative rarity. It also didn't come any finer that F. Not being keen on custom nib grinding (mostly because I wanted to keep options open for future nib swapping) I approached a somewhat noted pen maker who happened to be near to me, about having a new section made for the pen that was threaded for the more standard nib of the day. Long story short, he gave me the expected song and a dance about tooling (Ok, I'll buy that argument but don't really believe it), but moreover he wouldn't do it without the permission of the original pen maker. Seriously??!!! Even before that I had contacted the original pen maker to see what he could do for me. At the time he still made the pen model but with the updated threading, so how about swapping out or selling me a new section? He wanted nothing to do with me or my pen. i can only guess because I wan't the original owner of the pen. I finally went the rout of a nib grind but that was a fiasco - the first grind was botched then the replacement was so shoddy that I got a refund. Now the pen just sits unused in a cup in the china cabinet.

 

To those (and you know who you are) who would take this opportunity to offer excuses or to "educate" me as to the complexity of machining and tooling, save you breath. I don't care. I've done enough machining of threads in my day to know better.

 

To the op. Please show us what you come up with. It sounds interesting and I'm sure there are others who may be interested in doing the same thing.

[farazqamar]

Thanks all, for the advice. And I'll surely follow yours, BoBo. I think I'll try to find an inner cap used, or new, to experiment with and keep the original to replace if necessary. Here's a picture of an old ebonite pen gave me the idea:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/uploads/imgs/fpn_1574824806__turquoise_finial.jpg

 

did you ever manage to get this done? show us a picture please. thanks.

[Christopher Godfrey]

Yes, Bluto Carpaccio, it your pen, so go right ahead -- but it is still heresy!

Happily, we no longer lop people's heads off or burn them alive for it, though...

Edited April 26, 2020 by Christopher Godfrey

[Glenn-SC]

 

it your pen, so go right ahead -- but it is still heresy!

 

And who is the authority that decides this?