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What 14C Sailor Nib Would Give A Comfortable Medium To Fine Stub?

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#1 tinta


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:55

I have a rare opportunity to purchase a two-toned, yellow/black  Sailor 1911 Standard, here in Canada.   (Available in F, EF,  M,  & B nib sizes)  There is also Professional Gear Slim Special ED. that has also caught my eye, with the same smaller 14c nib.


I've been a happy user of Sailor's 1911 Standard models with their smaller 14c nibs for the better part of a decade.  This model is very suited to the way I write & to the size of my small hands.


My 1911-Ms were all purchased originally with an MS nib, then (narrowed) reground to 0.8 mm stubs, a round-nosed 0.6mm CI, a fairly soft 1.1 mm CI & a sharp 1.0 mm CI for lettering. The wider edged nibs provided me with a lot of fun bringing out either dramatic shading or provided me some stability when I experienced involuntary tremors my hand.


In the meantime I discovered though, that I could get a greater writing control with a narrower edged nib (stub), on a pen with a slightly narrower section.  These are great writing tools, but are made of cold metal.  I have always preferred the warmth of resins in general, enjoying Celluloid pens the most.


Kaweco's 14c nibs provided the initial answer.  Pendleton Brown has ground a 0.4 mm, a 0.5 mm & 0.7 mm Butter Line Stub on Bock gold nibs that make my hand writing a lot more comfortable.


I would like to achieve a similar size of "stub" on this yellow/black 1911 Standard's nib (somewhere between 0.5 mm & 0.4 mm.in width). 

This time I would like my favourate  nib-tech to remove the 'least' amount of tipping material to achieve the stub size/shape we finally want.


My former Sailor nib re-grinds that were accomplished by the well renowned Mr Mottishaw & Mr Masuyama, all started in "extreme", in that they all started out with a massive 1.15 mm Music nib.  The decision to start from these large nibs was at that time my idea.




For my purposes now, which Sailor 14c nib would achieve the closest results for a 0.4mm or 0.5mm stub?  (a B or an M?)


Would my choice of Sailor's 14c "M" nib work the best, considering that the Sailor nibs in general are undersized, as compared to Euro nibs?


Finally, has anyone ordered regrinds from 14c nibs or from the larger 21c nibs,  that started out as either a B size or M size nib?

I would love to hear these stories


Thanks you in advance for any light that you could shine on this topic.  

Edited by tinta, 09 November 2019 - 09:00.

*Sailor 1911S, Black/gold, 14c. 0.8 mm. stub(JM) *1911S blue "Colours", 14c. H-B "M" BLS (PB) *2 Sailor 1911-M Burgundy/gold pens: 14c. 0.6 mm. "round-nosed" CI (MM) & 1.1 mm. CI (JM) *Sailor Pro-Gear Slim Spec. Ed. "Fire",14c. (factory) "H-B" *2 Kaweco SPECIAL fountain pens: 14c."M" "B",-0.5 mm & 0.7 mm stubs (PB) *Kaweco Stainless Steel Lilliput, 14c "B" -0.6 mm. stub (PB) *Montblanc 254, 14c. "BB" (1.1 mm?) flügelfeder factory stub

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