Thanks all. This settles it for me. Im looking for line variation, so will look at getting a grind to cursive italic when and if i get the pen.
I read on Niche Pens website that the old pelikan nibs were flatter, perhaps like you describe it, Bo Bo, and they changed it to the more forgiving round, for people not used to fountain pens.
I don't think that's actually a fact, regardless of how many times Bo Bo posts it. Since he asserts it so much and so vehemently, perhaps some evidence proving this assertion would be nice. Until that happens, I'll continue to dismiss the claim as his opinion, and one heavily colored by his own presuppositions and strong dislike for anyone who uses anything other than a fountain pen. Personally, I find his constant characterization of users of other writing instruments as "ham fisted ball point barbarians" rather discourteous and borderline rude. I used to use a ballpoint and found nothing about it, or myself using it, "barbaric" -- nor did I ruin the first fountain pen I picked up due to writing pressure. His opinions do not line up with reality.
In fact, I had a vintage M400 with a "flat" tipped gold nib in medium and a modern M400 with a "ball" tipped gold nib in medium. They both wrote EXACTLY the same line on the page. You literally could not have told the difference if the same ink was used. People forget that a ball is a sphere, and you aren't writing with the ENTIRE circumference of the tipping. So the modern nibs being described as "blobby" just doesn't line up with the objective, verifiable writing experiences I've had when comparing vintage and modern Pelikans.
It IS true the nibs feel different (because vintage Pelikan nibs were made different to today's nails), but the tipping alone having a more spherical profile extending further into space vs. a flatter one doesn't automatically mean the nib writes a different line. How much of the tipping is touching /transferring ink to the page determines that, and you just have to try a nib and see to determine that. In my opinion, more tipping is better, as it offers the user a nib with a longer useful life and is well suited to customizations that might require the grinding away of some of the tipping (a cursive italic, for instance).
Edited by sirgilbert357, 25 October 2019 - 15:21.