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#161 Honeybadgers

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 10:21

If your post is relevant beyond just adding more 600-word-essays on your already well established grievances, of course please share.


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#162 Jamerelbe

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 13:42

If your post is relevant beyond just adding more 600-word-essays on your already well established grievances, of course please share.

 

@Honeybadgers, this is an open forum.  If you're not interested or impressed by Gil's reportage, you have the freedom to skip over it - as does anyone else.  As long as it's not getting personal and/or defamatory, and doesn't break the rules of the forum in any other respect (which I don't believe to be the case here), he has the right to express his opinions (and experiences) on this thread.

 

Edited to add: I find these 'snark attacks' *more* frustrating than the posts that give rise to them - they don't add *anything* to the discourse, other than a degree of, well, snarkiness...


Edited by Jamerelbe, 25 January 2020 - 13:44.


#163 Lloyd

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 20:40

 

@Honeybadgers, this is an open forum.  If you're not interested or impressed by Gil's reportage, you have the freedom to skip over it - as does anyone else.  As long as it's not getting personal and/or defamatory, and doesn't break the rules of the forum in any other respect (which I don't believe to be the case here), he has the right to express his opinions (and experiences) on this thread.

 

Edited to add: I find these 'snark attacks' *more* frustrating than the posts that give rise to them - they don't add *anything* to the discourse, other than a degree of, well, snarkiness...

Amen! 


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#164 Honeybadgers

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 10:53

 

@Honeybadgers, this is an open forum.  If you're not interested or impressed by Gil's reportage, you have the freedom to skip over it - as does anyone else.  As long as it's not getting personal and/or defamatory, and doesn't break the rules of the forum in any other respect (which I don't believe to be the case here), he has the right to express his opinions (and experiences) on this thread.

 

Edited to add: I find these 'snark attacks' *more* frustrating than the posts that give rise to them - they don't add *anything* to the discourse, other than a degree of, well, snarkiness...

 

Point taken. I thoroughly disagree as I feel it contributes to an overall unwelcoming and unfriendly form of discourse that been getting worse for a while now, but I'll drop it out of courtesy to those of you that it bothers. 


Edited by Honeybadgers, 26 January 2020 - 10:55.

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 15:15

If your post is relevant beyond just adding more 600-word-essays on your already well established grievances, of course please share.

 

 

 

Point taken. I thoroughly disagree as I feel it contributes to an overall unwelcoming and unfriendly form of discourse that been getting worse for a while now, but I'll drop it out of courtesy to those of you that it bothers. 

 

 

Well I for one, and can't believe I'm not the only one, agree with Hb's take on this.


Edited by austinwft, 26 January 2020 - 15:31.


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Posted 26 January 2020 - 15:37

 
 
 
 
Well I for one, and can't believe I'm not the only one, that agrees with Hb's take on this.


I'm sure you're not the only one who agrees with Hb - but in an open forum you'll always get a wide range of opinions on what's useful commentary and what's not. I'm nowhere near as fussy as @A Smug Dill about line width, pristine pen boxes etc, but have found it interesting to follow his attempts to take advantage of Parker's nib exchange program. You could argue that he should have created his own thread for that purpose, and you might have a point - but unless someone is breaking the rules of the forum, I think we do better to live and let live...

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 01:55

I don't always find myself agreeing with all of @HB's posts but on this one - I'm with @HB and empathise with the OP @katerchen as his thread has now deviated from Amazon's pricing to Parker's alleged failings in their QC and customer service.

I do appreciate @ASD's input and time taken to critique every single aspect of the products he's purchased, but I feel that this purpose is better served in its dedicated space in the Parker sub forum. I'll stop here.

 

Edited: for missing punctuations.


Edited by MalcLee, 27 January 2020 - 03:42.


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Posted 27 January 2020 - 09:29

Let's not let this degrade into yet another tangent. This isn't "us vs them" and treating it like that will just foster resentment over something as pointless and silly as this. I respect Lloyd and Jamerelbe's points of view. I value a lot of what Gil has to say, he just does occasionally take tangential ideas and really run a thread into the ground with them. His points are still completely valid, I just think they tend to become so long and detailed that they should be entire threads on their own, started by him. That was my only point, and it's not worth starting a fight over.

 

Let's just move on. This isn't productive in any way.


Edited by Honeybadgers, 27 January 2020 - 09:34.

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 15:32

I received my Parker Centennial "Big Red" from Amazon yesterday and was disappointed to find the pen in a small cardboard box that had been sealed in a plastic bag and popped into a mailing box with no bubble wrap or other padding.  I am worried that this is a fake.  What type of packaging did yours arrive in?  I have asked for a return as this does not seem like the expensive pen advertised.  I would appreciate your thoughts as you all have much more experience with this pen and others.  Thank you in advance.



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 22:06

Mine came in the full deal, large bifold box, converter, 2 cartridges, paperwork.

 

I'd return it and ask for another.


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#171 langere

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 22:09

Yes, this is not good.  Like Honeybadgers, I received the whole treatment - box, converter, cartridges, etc.

 

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#172 A Smug Dill

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 22:12

I am worried that this is a fake.


Was it sold (and shipped) by Amazon US?
 

What type of packaging did yours arrive in?


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I have asked for a return as this does not seem like the expensive pen advertised.


Is that on the basis of the manufacturer's retail packaging, or the actual pen?

 

The retail packaging in which my far more expensive Pilot Capless raden Vanishing Point came wasn't nearly as elaborate or specific to the model.

 

As for the pen itself, I'd say mine looks the part of a US$250 gold-nibbed pen that is made in Europe with a middle-tier brand name.


As always:  1. Implicit in everything and every instance I write on FPN is the invitation for you to judge me as a peer in the community. I think it's only due respect to take each other's written word in online discussion seriously and apply critical judgment.  2. I do not presume to judge for you what is right, correct or valid. If I make a claim, or refute a statement in a thread, and link to references and other information in support, I beseech you to review and consider those, and judge for yourself. I may be wrong. My position or say-so carries no more weight than anyone else's here, and external parties can speak for themselves with what they have published.  3. I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable. If it is something you can test for yourself and see the results, I entreat you to do so.


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Posted 17 February 2020 - 00:33

I seem to remember people not receiving the normal packaging from Amazon fountain pen orders. I thought it was this thread, but maybe not.

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Posted 17 February 2020 - 02:18

That was probably about Pelikan pens sold by AmazonGlobal.


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Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:15

Was it sold (and shipped) by Amazon US?
 


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Is that on the basis of the manufacturer's retail packaging, or the actual pen?

 

The retail packaging in which my far more expensive Pilot Capless raden Vanishing Point came wasn't nearly as elaborate or specific to the model.

 

As for the pen itself, I'd say mine looks the part of a US$250 gold-nibbed pen that is made in Europe with a middle-tier brand name.

 

 

That's the box I got too.

 

Complain loudly to Amazon.



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Posted 17 February 2020 - 14:34

That was probably about Pelikan pens sold by AmazonGlobal.


You are correct. Thanks for the reminder.

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Posted 28 February 2020 - 21:39

I have the Big Red with the Fine Nib, still very happy with it since It was delivered from Amazon, a great value - always writes, it fits nicely since most of my pens have either stubs, flex, broad nib

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 00:50

Has anyone come up with an explanation fot the upside-down pricing of this pen, about 40% of the price of the International?

 

 

Is it a psychology experiment?

 

Cheers, and Peace

 

 

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 11:12

Has anyone come up with an explanation fot the upside-down pricing of this pen, about 40% of the price of the International?

 

 

Is it a psychology experiment?

 

Cheers, and Peace

 

 

Adam

Blame Amazon's pricing algorithm. God knows what factors go into that. On thing I do know: there is no catch. It's a legit Duofold Centennial Big Red. I've bought two of them so far and had both sent to France for nib replacement. I now have one with a needle point and one with a fine italic.



#180 A Smug Dill

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Posted 04 March 2020 - 11:16

…. had both sent to France for nib replacement. I now have one with a needle point and one with a fine italic.

 

 

I've had both of those nib replacements myself (on the same pen) from France, and personally I think they both suck for my tastes.


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