Another Parker 75 Cisele Question

[BernieC]

I have a Parker 75 Cisele and have been reading the forums trying to find out if the 75's were only made in Sterling Silver.

 

I have used a loupe (20x) to scan the pen and cannot find the 925 mark on any part of the pen. Magnets do not attract the pen.

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This pen was made in France and is equipped with gold clip and bands. The nib is 18K and marked Parker.

 

I found the Parker mark on the cap and what appears to be the number 100 stamped in the cap (very tiny).

 

So, do I have a Parker 75 Sterling Silver Pen?

 

Thanks for any information you might have.

[Addertooth]

French Cisele Sterlings pens with 18k nibs exist. The one I have has the additional French hallmarks and the 18k nib. If you post a picture of yours, it will make it easier for the rest of us.

The French have a stamp which they mark their Sterling with, which may be used in place of the word "Sterling". You almost need a microscope, or a powerful loop to read it.

I am including a picture of my French Stamped Hallmark, the pens is also marked "STERLING" as well. You can make out the 18K designation on the Nib in the photo as well.

Also included is a picture of what the French Hallmarks "ideally" look like. I have never seen a stamp as clear as these images, most require interpretation.

 

 

[BernieC]

Hello Addertooth, Thanks for the information. I mistakenly put 18K in the post when actually it is 14K.

 

I did find the mark for the 925 silver although I can't make out any number with my 20X loupe. I do not see the word Sterling anywhere on the cap or barrel of the pen. I do see other markings on the cap but they are hard to make out even with the loupe.

 

I am not equipped to take a closeup picture of the pen. So I will be content just knowing that it is really Sterling.

 

It is a buttery smooth writer and stays inked most of the time with Private Reserve Naples Blue.

 

Thanks again for the response and the information.

Bernie

[ngekomo]

...I do not see the word Sterling anywhere on the cap or barrel of the pen....

interesting...

 

Stainless-steel Ciselé and Aluminium Ciselé do exist, but that is extremely rare

[RalphP]

interesting...

 

Stainless-steel Ciselé and Aluminium Ciselé do exist, but that is extremely rare

 

Probably the most scarce – a 75 made of Nickel-Silver. Interesting alloy – it contains neither nickel nor silver… In the late 1970’s when silver went to $50 an ounce Parker was evidently looking for a less expensive material for their cisele 75s – probably difficult to work with it just didn’t look as good as silver. This pen is shown on Parker 75 dot com under Unknown Patterns number 12.

 

An example exists in both fountain pen and ballpoint.

 

ralph prather

[baz666]

For those who have never seen them.

First picture is my nickel silver set, second picture is the aluminium silver plated P75.

 

 

 

Paul.

Edited September 24, 2019 by baz666

[jchch1950]

For those who have never seen them.

 

First picture is my nickel silver set, second picture is the aluminium silver plated P75.

 

 

 

Paul.

Thank you for the photos. First time that I have seen these pens.

[mikerph]

I have a cisele international ballpoint in vermeil that dates from the 70’s. There is also a 75 in gold filled that has the cisele crosshatching.

[inkstainedruth]

Interesting that Parker made nickel silver 75s (I love this site -- I learn stuff all the time). When I was in college, a girl in my jewelry making class bought some nickel silver for a project because it was way cheaper than sterling (this is back in the late 1970s-early 1980s when the price of silver was through the roof) -- and I lost track of how many jewelry saw blades she broke while trying to make the piece....

The nickel silver 75 may be more valuable as I suspect fewer of them may have been made (simply because of the difficulty in working with the material). That being said, I don't personally care for the look over the sterling silver (and only very slightly more than the look of the vermeil 75s). OTOH, I suspect that the nickel silver may be a more robust material that doesn't get dinged up the way the sterling could.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[vicpen123]

For comparison my P75 Cisele has an indeterminate mark at the end of the PARKER name (does not look like the marks above) but also has STERLING 925 on the cap band.