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Italic Versions Of The Minuscule 's' And 'd'

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#21 _InkyFingers

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#22 Bobje

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 02:21

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 02:25

Lovely handwriting there, @Bobje!

That quote makes me think of Orpheus and Eurydice.

Is that the end of an acrylic Delike Alpha showing in the photo?
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#24 Bobje

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Posted 20 September 2019 - 12:22

Thank you kindly, ASD. Your reaction prompted me to review the story of Orpheus and Eurydice. Watch out for snakes at your wedding. That is indeed a Delike alpha.

 


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Posted 20 September 2019 - 21:36

I tend to logically delineate between writing in italic, and writing in cursive (italic or otherwise).

When I'm writing in cursive, then I don't think the entrance stroke from the baseline would look out of place on a minuscule 's' at the start of a word. When I'm just writing (or 'printing') in italic script, then the minuscule 's' would have no entrance stroke from the left, irrespective of the letter's position in the word.

In the exemplars in The Calligrapher's Bible by David Harris, the minuscule 's' has the diagonal entrance stroke in Cancelleresca corsiva as well as Copperplate (in both the "Italian hand" and English Roundhand).

 

I agree, at least certainly regarding cursive
when I was tough cursive in primary school, I was tought to use the entrance stroke on the minuscule s even at the start of the word.
I was never tought script so I would not know.

It is though the entrance stroke, which should in reality be the linking stroke, becomes a characterizing element of cursive letters to the extent that they maintain the stroke even when written alone


Edited by sansenri, 20 September 2019 - 21:43.


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Posted 04 October 2019 - 20:04

At the beginning of words, I decided on the 's' with no entrance stroke and the standard 'g.' Inside of a word, the alternate versions, unless I don't feel like it.

 

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 02:05

At the beginning of words, I decided on the 's' with no entrance stroke and the standard 'g.' Inside of a word, the alternate versions, unless I don't feel like it.
 
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What ink did you use for this, Bobje?

#28 Bobje

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 12:28

Jaeger, this is Blackstone red cashmere. The lighting throws it off in this photo.

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Posted 05 October 2019 - 13:43

Thanks, Bobje, I would never have guessed that.

#30 Bobje

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 03:51

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#31 Randal6393

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Posted 06 October 2019 - 18:04

Hey, Bob, which is more at fault for the feathering? The ink or the paper?


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Posted 08 October 2019 - 02:44

Randal,
The paper. It was an experiment with an Ikea notebook. Not good for fountain pens.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 00:39

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I find the letter s tricky. 
I personally I find the "s" without the stroke naked.  :D

I really love the d on the top right. 

I had some fun writing the word salad over and over again. And it was hard to leave the s without the stroke.

 

 

 


Edited by yazeh, 24 October 2019 - 14:54.






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