Do you find script nibs better than bird logo ones?"""
No, just prettier. In semi-flex.
Semi-flex due to ease of tine bend and spread is a wetter writing nib than, regular flex or a semi-nail or nail. So could be considered a gusher....I'd suggest 4001 ink if a semi-flex is too wet.
Pen makers who make their own inks, design the nib and feed to match their ink. Not someone elses ink. & if one uses a wet ink in a wet nib...& or is a bit heavy handed at the same time...one ends up with super wet line.
The Obliques of the 50-60's is the real thing; semi-flex and stubbed.
....I've a few '82-90's regular flex obliques.....3 of them...and a modern 1005's regular flex OBB, and they offer being regular flex if one looks hard only a whisper compared to the real thing of semi&maxi.
W.German 200 OM, W.Germany 600 OBB, 381 OB....that I didn't even know was oblique it has so little line variation, and a 1005 OBB.
The W.Germany 600 is half a width narrower than the modern 1005.
All in all in semi&maxi I have 16 obliques..........I just don't really count the semi-vintage ones. I had a Lamy 27 nail OM.....no line variation at all. I sold that. My Lamy 18 K nail Persona OB had also no line variation. PB made it a nice CI for me.
A good poster stated, "Stubbed and CI are 100% line variation, semi-flex is line variation On Demand."
Some folks cant their nib, some call that rotate their nib.....some are left handed, some might be left eye dominant and want to see the top of the nib so cant it until they see the top of the nib.
I had to train my self to cant the oblique nibs. I always suggest starting out with a semi-flex OB, in it is still a writing nib, and the wide sweet spot allows for error.
Obliques come in the normal 15 degree grind, and rarer 30 degree grind. I've not run into a 22 grind, but only have 16 from that era..
There use to be a lot of threads with folks not being able to work an oblique. I came up with hold the nib in the light to see if it's 15 or 30 degree grind.
If 15, then post the cap fo the clip is aimed half way between the slit and the edge of the nib, grasp in air, place on paper and write.
30 degree grind, aim the clip at the right had edge of the nib, grasp in air, place on paper and write.
There were still troubles. Richard suggested if they were still having problems, to place the paper at 90 degrees or 180 instead of 45 degrees. After that those threads died.
I didn't have to do the last. But with OF and OM, one needs more exact canting than with OB or OBB.
My post war 100n has a first stage superflex nib...Easy Full flex. It is only marked k on the nib, and I eyeball it as an EF...in there was no marking on the pen to nib size.
In maxi-semi-flex I have an Ibis, 400nn and my too wide to write with 500 OBB, with a 30 degree grind. A legal signature takes from 2/3s a page to 3/4ths of one. A pure signature pen. Having a rolled gold cap and piston cap cover, it was one of their fancy pens.
In any brand but Osmia, where a semi-flex has a small diamond often with a size number in it. Their maxi's are the Supra nibs; some with a large diamond with no number, others with just Supra written on it. I have some 29 semi-flex and 16 maxi's of this and that brand.****
The following are in a 3 X tine spread set......don't push the nib to more.....some do and brag about it....a good way to spring the nib.
Regular flex, 120/200 '82-97 400's, when well mashed will go 3 X a light down stroke. Can't be written with really when so mashed.
Semi-flex require half that pressure to go to 3 X. It is a robust nib, and can be written with when pressed to it's max. It took me some 3 months to go from being Ham Fisted to having a lighter Hand with my first semi-flex, a 140 OB. It is a flair nib, not for Lettering wide scripts. One can make a nice decender at the end of a paragraph.
Maxi-semi-flex takes half of that pressure or 1/4th the pressure needed to mash a regular flex to 3 X. Is easier to get a bit fancy.....but again, don't press the nib over 3 X.
I find the following pictures to be too wide.
A gent sent me the pictures in he was looking to by a vintage 400, and I recommended against it, because in my book, that nib is or has been over stressed. Why buy a sprung nib?
Do read Richard's fine article.
Especially the fancy X's.
I would consider the second and wider quick fox to be well maxed.
When I pointed this out....these are those sprung while you watch Ebay or Youtube overstressing of a nib. However those who like to do that, tell me off. It's their nib. I just ask they mention taking the nib to 4 & 5 X when selling it, so the wise don't buy.
Richard Binder has a great article on metal fatigue. I call it how to Spring Your Nib.
I had never understood, why some said, they didn't like using a semi-flex nib, because it was too slow. If one abuses a nib like that, of course it's too slow. I just scribble along at regular speed.....my Hand did get lighter....but not super light.
With my Wet Noodles, I have to sweat to get XXF, think to get EF, so basically scribble in F. Not the lightest Hand out there.
After reading Richard's article, I strive to stay under max. My 100n will go 5 X, so I try to keep it at 4x.
I have two Wet Noodles that that rare 7 X....and outside of Youtube and selling a pen, 7 X is rare in vintage pens. I strive to keep them at 6 X as a max. One Wet Noodle I have will "only" go 6 X, so 5 X is just fine by me.
"""After using the vintage script nib, I appreciate more of the M101n script nib. Pelikan really made a good effort to recreate the vintage. Both nibs are softer than their bird logo counterparts. Both nibs sing similar songs when writing. The modern M101n nib is softer than vintage, but not as bouncy."""
I didn't know that. Vintage is '50-65, and is unless marked H or D semi-flex. I do have a D nib '50-54 400, and it is the nail's Nail.
That M101 could it be regular flex, similar to the '82-97 era? Like the 200's?
**** 1932 Degussa the German gold and silver producer....still doing that, took the Osmia nib factory with it's semi-flex and Supra nib factory for debt.
In they were making gold ribbon wheels for Osmia, in semi & maxi, I think...WAG....that they sold what ever gold ribbon wheel that was on hand to Pelikan, MB, and later Geha. That explains why some of them are maxi-semi-flex and none of those companies marked their nibs in any way to being semi or maxi. My WAG is one nib in 5 seem to be maxi out side the Osmia/Osmia-Faber-Castel pens. As I mentioned, I do have 16 of those maxi's and only 1/4th are Osmia.
Logic is my escape route, in I have no proof.