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Posted 09 July 2019 - 21:55
I have a friend asking for recommendations but I realized that I don't know many off of the top of my head other than the Lamy Safari and the TWSBI Eco-T, but she is looking for something more vintage.
What would you recommend for a student-level budget?
And what are good triangular gripped pens broadly speaking?
Posted 09 July 2019 - 22:32
Posted 10 July 2019 - 00:02
“I admit it, I'm surprised that fountain pens are a hobby. ... it's a bit like stumbling into a fork convention - when you've used a fork all your life.”
Posted 10 July 2019 - 00:41
I love questions like this! Have a unique preference and you think nothing exists and suddenly you get some new options!
Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:10
"There is nothing new in the world except the history you do not know." - Harry S Truman
Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:21
It's interesting that I can't think of one that costs more than about 30 bucks.
IIRC some omas pens had them though but it was mostly because the whole pen was a triangle.
I know they're generally considered to be beginner grips for training the hand, but lots of people love them and stick with their safari or al-star forever, so I don't know why there aren't more.
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 10:59
The only pen I can think of that hasn't been mentioned yet is the Pelikan Twist.
Posted 10 July 2019 - 12:50
Jinhao 450, cheap, classic cigar shaped, metallic cap and barrel, easy to disassemble for maintenance/tweaking, and very cheap. It is a modern pen, though, but has a classic look.
Posted 10 July 2019 - 12:57
I keep my eye out for triangular-grip pens, so I can avoid them.
The Pilot Kakuno has six sides, not three.
Many Lamy pens are triangular -- the Safari, Vista, Al-Star, and Joy all share the same section. Then there are the ABC, Nexx, and Nexx M (as said above). A bunch of Online's pens (online-pen.de) have rubberized, triangular grips (both of which I regard as flaws in design). I think that in addition to the Twist, the Pelikano Jr. may have section facets.
Sheaffer used to make a very slender pocket pen called the Prelude, which had Safari-style facets. OMAS used to make a piston-filler they called the 360, but not for very long. I'm sure any found will be quite pricey. As Honeybadgers said, the entire pen had a triangular cross-section.
Posted 10 July 2019 - 17:46
As some already mentioned, OMAS made a whole series of triangular pens named "360" (not to be mixed up with the older "361"). These pens came in all kinds of colours and materials and sizes. The smaller ones are cartridge/converter, the large ones are piston fillers. Like all OMAS they are of outstanding quality but not made anymore. Since the company was liquidated, prices for used ones or NOS pens went up a lot and they were expensive before that. But the 360s definitely are fantastic and unusual pens, especially the celluloid models.
Posted 10 July 2019 - 18:12
For a low end pen, have a look at the Jinhao 599. It's a knockoff of a Safari/al-Star. Someone gave me one and it taught me that I could in fact get used to a triangular section after all. Is it as good as my Safari? No. But it's also roughly a sixth the price.....
Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth
Posted 10 July 2019 - 20:47
Posted 10 July 2019 - 21:08
I'd stay away from Geha cartridge pens, in no cartridges have been made for them since 1972, when Geha stopped making pens.
Geha was the first cartridge pen maker in Germany so ended up with a propriety cartridge, then they made the other end fit Pelikan. But nothing fits it now....
Have no idea if a converter if so, which could fit them.
German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.
The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.
Posted 10 July 2019 - 23:52
That's right, Geha cartridges are a no go unless you want to keep that pen in a display case only.
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:29
It only comes with extra fine nibs though.
Also bear in mind that many German-style (i.e. Lamy-style) triangular sections designed to be useful to people learning to grip a pen as well as experienced (and usually older) users are on the thicker side in terms of diametre. I am saying that because whilst I usually follow the flattened surfaces on the section of the 75, I totally ignore them on my Kaweco Perkeo where my fingers rest happily partly on-partly off the flattened surface except for my index which always rests entirely off. (I do this without any trouble because the section transitions are smooth and I write using the elbow, not the wrist or the roots of fingers themselves, as my pivot point; I hold all pens like darts actually, but it works and it is comfortable for me). I say all this because if your friend has smaller fingers she might be forced to ignore the triangular shape of the section and conclude that she is somehow failing to hold the pen "properly". Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as proper grip so long as you don't get finger cramps or the like; if not, then you're holding the pen properly, and this is the reason why the transitions between the flattened, triangularly placed grip guides and the curvy section intervals between them on German-style school pens are imperceptible to the touch: so that students will ignore the triangularly placed guides if need be, like I do with my Perkeo.
Posted 12 July 2019 - 01:39
Pelikan school pens often have triangular grips. I have some Pelikan Go! pens from the 1980s that are pretty cool. Black and teal, and piston fillers, too. Probably go for around $5, if you can find one.
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