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Noodler's Ebonite Feed With Goulet Nib - Too Wet?

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#1 boulderchips

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 18:37

Forgive me if I'm repeating a topic here, but I couldn't find anything with the search function.

 

I have a Noodler's Ebonite Konrad that I really enjoy. Up until now I've been using it with the flex nib, but today I decided to try swapping it out with a Goulet #6 Medium.

 

The swap and heat setting went well, but the pen is now an absolute gusher. It writes more like a broad and puts down enough ink to puddle. I inked up with Asa Gao, which I know is a wetter ink, but even so it seemed extreme.

 

Is this a problem with the nib, or the feed? Is it because the feed was intended for use with a flex nib? I generally like broader nibs, but this is a little much even for me. I have to write very quickly to avoid puddles.

 

Is there anything I can do to fix this? I can always go back to the flex nib, but if there's a way to make the Jowo nib work, I'd be glad.



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#2 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 23:15

What ink are you using??, try a dry ink a Pelikan 4001 ink.....Some Noodlers and Japanese inks are often very, very wet.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 20 June 2019 - 23:15.

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www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 21 June 2019 - 01:37

Does the Goulet Nib and feed fit tightly?

  • I ask because I had a Noodler's Ebonite Konrad and the Goulet nib did not fit tightly nor well at all.  An improper fit  may create a spillway for ink : (
  • I gave up on Noodler's pens after I had trouble with my Ebonite Konrads unable to fit a Goulet, having poor QC, and disliking the original nibs...  one of the worst experiences I've had with fountain pens.

However, if the fit is tight and proper, I will say that when I've used Goulet nibs with Ebonite feeds on my Fountain Pen Revolution Pens and Noodler's Charlie, the flow was substantially more than with the original nib.

 

But that's expensive ink to put into a gusher : /  It honestly doesn't sound good.

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If you really like the pen, maybe you could inquire as to whether an FPR nib replacement might be better for you.  I don't recommend Noodler's nib replacements because the ones I tried were terrible. 

 

Maybe Knox nibs might work better.  I've found they haven't been as wet as Goulet nibs on Ebonite feeds. 

 

BUT that kind of tweaking can get expensive, it may not work, and by the time you pay for shipping and possible failed attempts you could have been closer to affording much better pens you don't have to tweak to get to work.



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 03:28

The Noodler's Konrads used to work really well with Goulet (or other JoWo #6) nibs, but I think I read somewhere that after an upgrade to the pen design, that's no longer recommended.  That said, the gushiness of the pen *may* just be a product of not properly heat-setting the feed.  I've had good success in the past pairing Goulet nibs with Noodler's ebonite feeds - and more recently doing the same with FPR ebonite feeds.

 

As a general rule, ebonite feeds that have been designed to 'marry' with a flex nib will be fairly wet - wetter than a regular feed.  So you can expect to get a fair bit of ink on the page.  That said, I've found that as a general rule a non-flex nib can still 'tame' the feed gushing through the feed somewhat, as long as it's properly set.  

 

With your current combo, it's definitely worth trying a dryer ink, to see if that helps - and/or setting the nib and feed again, to ensure there's good physical contact between the two.



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 04:29

Thanks for the helpful responses. I did feel like the fit was pretty tight, but I'm no expert and I haven't done too many nib swaps. I didn't see any ink coming around the nib or feed?

 

I saw that the Konrad is no longer recommended for swaps, but I thought an Ebonite might be okay because it's an older model. But I think you might be right about an incomplete setting. Before I did the heat set, it was pushing up the tines of the Goulet nib and splaying them a little, so I wonder if it just didn't push all the way down.

 

I'll try another heat set and a dryer ink. I can always swap the original nib back on or look into an FPR nib. I just like the feel and balance of the Konrad posted.



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 04:43

Thanks for the helpful responses. I did feel like the fit was pretty tight, but I'm no expert and I haven't done too many nib swaps. I didn't see any ink coming around the nib or feed?

 

I saw that the Konrad is no longer recommended for swaps, but I thought an Ebonite might be okay because it's an older model. But I think you might be right about an incomplete setting. Before I did the heat set, it was pushing up the tines of the Goulet nib and splaying them a little, so I wonder if it just didn't push all the way down.

 

I'll try another heat set and a dryer ink. I can always swap the original nib back on or look into an FPR nib. I just like the feel and balance of the Konrad posted.

 

If you really like the pen but don't want to to go back to the Noodler's nib, then yes, an FPR nib is definitely an option.  Their overall shape and configuration is, I think, a little closer to Noodler's than JoWo (if you've ever taken a JoWo nib and feed apart, you'll see there's a bit of a 'bulge' on the back of the feed, that's mirrored in a slight 'swoop of the nib.  The Noodler's and FPR nibs sit flatter against the feed - as do Bock nibs, coincidentally).

 

Wish you all the best with it!



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Posted 21 June 2019 - 21:06

Update: I heat set the feed again and made sure there was no tip splay. It helped a little, but the flow is still hopelessly wet :(

 

I may fiddle around with a couple other nibs, but overall I'm bummed. Thanks again for all the suggestions.





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