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#1 sidthecat

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:54

Ive been working with some old gold dip pens, and I managed to get my greedy little hands on a pen with a Leroy Fairchild nib: a Number Six.
Ive bought a couple of large-scale nibs, but its hard to find them in a usable state. This one, however, is.
But its size creates its own problems: the inks I have are too thin to pool nicely in the tines. I have a bottle of Platinum iron-gall, but all my other nibs prefer Pelikan Edelstein Smoky Quartz, which isnt an IG but just works really well and gives my most frivolous jottings the patina of age.
So I ask the ink fancy: recommend me an ink for this monster. Whats out there?
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Posted 13 June 2019 - 06:06

The old Sheaffer Washable #62 (Black) seems to like the broad nib I installed in a Penatia.  

 

Maybe someone here has a set of sample vials you could try?



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:34

Get some gum arabic and play with the inks you have. I tried it for some flat point nib calligraphy and enjoyed the results, thicker ink is much more pleasant to work with.



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Posted 13 June 2019 - 15:27

That sounds interesting: I have some Liquitex Flow-Aid, but I think that’s for the opposite problem.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 16:12

Improvise somtehing like a feed in the nib holder, maybe? I've tried pieces of cork in the shape of a feed, under the nib inside the holder, and it worked wonders.

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 18:07

Oh - Chinese brush ink.   It's like india ink, but thicker.  I have a bottle I picked up from a store in Little Saigon in Houston.  You can also get ink sticks.



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Posted 14 June 2019 - 02:15

I have some of that...I’ll give it a try, although I’ve virtually abandoned black ink.

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Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:32

One ink that you may consider is GvFC Cobalt Blue - it is pretty thick but still workable.  It does smear when used in heavy amounts.  I can't use it in wide nibs because of the smearing. 

 

Another thought: Dr. P.h. Martin's (https://www.docmarti...-pen-ink-1-0-oz).  This is their fountain pen ink - it is thick and completely water proof.  


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 17:22

I have some of that...I’ll give it a try, although I’ve virtually abandoned black ink.

If it works, they make ink sticks in various colours, and you can mix it to your desired consistency.  

 

I just mentioned it because dip pen nibs can be cleaned more easily than FP's.    I bought it by mistake, thinking it was fountain pen ink.  I keep it for dip pens and my daughter's school projects.



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Posted 16 June 2019 - 03:16

I likewise bought it for a project, but it was a dip pen project. The nice thing about the gold ones is that they don’t corrode.

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 04:24

I have an excellent polish for the steel nibs.   It's Quixx all metal polish.   Works better than the various other polishes I have - silver, brass, and 'anything goes'.  

 

Don't use it on anything plated - it works very quickly. 

 

I had a big pile of random steel dip nibs and pens, and it pulled virtually all of the rust off of every one - you can even read the R.ESTERBROOK properly now on some of them.    Good as new.  



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Posted 17 June 2019 - 14:20

if you are using it on dip pen, then nothing best good old India Ink or Chinese Stick ink ; I had a bottle of my own mix of Hero 232 + Hero 234 1:1 ( that's iron gall blue Black + Carbon ink ) and that's the one I used for archival need and it work on any pen , if you need color, try Holbin Artist Ink ( and Gum Arabic if you find them still not thick enough )



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Posted 17 June 2019 - 16:10

I had a bottle of my own mix of Hero 232 + Hero 234 1:1

 

Those are actually compatible?  Did you use it in a fountain pen or a dip pen?


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:20

Perhaps KWZ ink. It has a little more viscosity then other fountain pen ink. Worth to try.


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 10:37

 

Those are actually compatible?  Did you use it in a fountain pen or a dip pen?

 

I use it in my fountain pen, nothing seems to happen when they mix , and they just work , 232 is OK by itself, but 234 is known to be so heavy that it routinely clog pens if the pen is not used frequently , diluting it with water generally do not work so that's the way how I do it ; of course in the end its just black / very dark grey once its dried



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Posted 19 June 2019 - 18:45

of course in the end its just black / very dark grey once its dried

 

But it's interesting that they're compatible.  In the past I haven't had much luck mixing carbon ink with dye ink, and iron gall would seem to add a whole new regime of chemical activity.  Thanks for replying!


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