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Which companies (if any) still manufacture all the components fitted into their pens?

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Santini claims so on their webpage, implying the other one is Aurora.

 

I have read Waterman has recently(?) absorberd the company that made feeds for them, hence said company was not allowed to OEM for third parties any longer. I believe that the other brands of Sanford, despite sharing a lot of production processes between them, are in the same exclusive zone: this means they may have third party producers, most notably Luxor India and the unnamed Parker China factory, but they do not OEM for others.

 

Lamy and Pelikan, according to the production videos you get to see and the factory tours appear to be quite independent.

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S T Dupont make their own components.

 

MontBlanc also do their own components.

 

The big three Japanese firms - Sailor, Pilot & Platinum do their own.

 

I suspect Caran D'Ache do their own stuff too - does any one know for sure?

 

Nakaya certainly do their own stuff.

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Nakaya certainly do their own stuff.

Platinum makes Nakaya's nibs.

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Did a Lamy Factory newspaper won tour....they make everything including their ink and ball point re-fill.

Pelikan and MB also.

Imagine as mentioned French Waterman/Parker are made at the same factory. Don't know if there is a difference in their nibs.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

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Platinum makes Nakaya's nibs.

They are the same company, so this doesn't quite count as outsourcing.

Same for Pilot & Namiki.

 

Lamy outsource I think their gold nibs to Bock or some such?

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They are the same company, so this doesn't quite count as outsourcing.

Same for Pilot & Namiki.

 

Lamy outsource I think their gold nibs to Bock or some such?

Not the same company - they are separate entities though closely related as I understand it.

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Lamy outsource I think their gold nibs to Bock or some such?

 

I don't think so. The newspaper tour I won, we went through the gold nib section during Breakfast so there were no near workers to watch....nor was there a chance to Hoover up a bit of gold.

 

We slid through that section of the factory at too fast a pace to take a good look....as eagle eyes as I was.

That section where the gold pens were made or put together, was rather old fashioned

I had thought....sort of '60-70's instead of modern, but way more modern that some of the other greasy looking steel machine,... nib stamping machines I see in some of the videos of other companies.

30-40 meters by 10 and 15 at the end in there was a slight L to the gold pen section. There had been two woman using a belt grinder buffing what looked like 2000 model roller ball pens.

 

Down stairs was a huge factory for steel nibbed pens. (We didn't tour both sides, and 1/5th looked shut down.

Perhaps in a section they didn't show us....the 2000's or other gold pens bodies were made, (not the nibs that was upstairs in the controlled enterace section....could have been just a section of the factory that was down for lack of use..............220 yards long, 85 yards wide.

 

If I'm not mistaken this is a nib stamping machine from our own Thomas/Kaweco's pen museum.

If not, I know he's got a big one, but no place to display it, in they didn't let him build a second floor of industrial gitter....in case some rowdy drunk fell off.

 

So one don't need huge machines to stamp out a nib.

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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