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Parker Sonnet (China Buy) - Legit Or "knock Off"

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#1 GEJ

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 14:54

I've recently begun purchasing fountain pens and have bought a few through ebay from china.  They state that they are Parker Sonnet, and appear to be just that, but the prices are dramatically less than if I were to purchase from Amazon.  For an example I bought a Blue Parker Sonnet pen, gold trim with a medium nib on ebay for $12.05 Cdn, but on Amazon the same pen is listed for around $45.20 Cdn.  Are these pens truly a Parker Sonnet, or a 'knock off' and how would I be able to tell.  The pen writes well and I have no complaints about it, but the pricing variance is a little unsettling. :yikes:



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#2 SenZen

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 17:27

Sonnets are widely known to be falsified, if it comes from China it's highly likely to be a knock off. The usual prices for real used Sonnets start at about $30.


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Posted 23 May 2019 - 17:50

http://penhero.com/P...onnetClones.htm



#4 fabri00

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 19:17

Those fake sonnet are sold also from European seller in ebay.

#5 flipper_gv

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 00:39

I would never buy a Parker Sonnet or a Montblanc 144/145 on eBay unless I have someone I trust personally vouch for the seller. Too many fakes.



#6 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 10:19

Rip off counterfeit ....knock off :angry: sounds almost legal.....one with morals don't buy stolen or counterfeit goods..........and counterfeit is stolen goods. Fake fashion, fake pen for a fake cheap life.

 

Got no patience for those who rip off brick and mortar pen shops ..... chorteling all the way to the cheaper online garage warehouse cheaper buy, after trying the pen in real life.

 

That is why there are so few pen shops left....and why so, so many complain about poor quality control out of the not rugged enough for mailing box.

 

Do check our sales section here, they will have used Sonnets with working nibs....a problem a decade ago, and at a price fair to both of you.


German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 16:18

Why buy a pen from eBay in China, and then ask if it is a fake or a knock-off?  



#8 ParkerDuofold

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Posted 24 May 2019 - 16:51

Hi all,

TANSTAFL.

- Anthony
With thanks to my Mom & Dad; who taught me to run free, but not run wild.

Please pray the Rosary daily. Thank You, St. Jude, for favors granted. :)

Grab life with both arms and give it a bear hug every day! :D

#9 chromantic

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:41

In addition to the obvious Sonnet knock-off from Baoer(?), it was my understanding that there is a official licensee making Parker pens (similar to Luxor in India), mostly Vectors and Frontiers but Sonnets, too, I believe.


It's hard work to tell which is Old Harry when everybody's got boots on.


#10 fabri00

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 05:02

Hi all,

TANSTAFL.

- Anthony


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#11 Tweel

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 05:13

Actually TANSTAAFL.

(Off-topic: there ain't no such thing as "free shipping", either.)


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Posted 25 May 2019 - 06:48

In addition to the obvious Sonnet knock-off from Baoer(?), it was my understanding that there is a official licensee making Parker pens (similar to Luxor in India), mostly Vectors and Frontiers but Sonnets, too, I believe.

Anybody has more information?



#13 ParkerDuofold

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 12:52

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Hi Fabri00,

There Ain't No Such Thing As a Free Lunch. ;)


- Anthony
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Please pray the Rosary daily. Thank You, St. Jude, for favors granted. :)

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#14 ParkerDuofold

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 12:59

Actually TANSTAAFL.
(Off-topic: there ain't no such thing as "free shipping", either.)


Hi Tweel,

When this acronym was taught to me in the 6th. Grade, it was the common practice back then to drop the small "a"... being that it was naturally assumed... and including it ruins the flow.

In recent years,... when everything needs to be spelled out verbatim... it was added,... but I've stuck with the way it used to be commonly quoted. :D


- Anthony


Typo

Edited by ParkerDuofold, 25 May 2019 - 13:00.

With thanks to my Mom & Dad; who taught me to run free, but not run wild.

Please pray the Rosary daily. Thank You, St. Jude, for favors granted. :)

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#15 Mech-for-i

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 13:02

Yes there are actual genuine Parker manufactured in China under license as OEM supply but those goes to the Chinese dealer who sell those in home market ; the motto is that many of the less expensive model had enough volume of sale to justify that over import. Fact though Parker price them not lower than import so go figure

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 13:03

Here's a link to an old thread here on FPN about this:

http://www.fountainp...-they-now-made/

 

And another:

http://www.fountainp...-taboo-subject/

 

And an article about Parkr sales in China (but it doesn't cover manufacturing):

http://www.chinadail...nt_25336153.htm


It's hard work to tell which is Old Harry when everybody's got boots on.


#17 fabri00

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 13:04

Hi Fabri00,

There Ain't No Such Thing As a Free Lunch. ;)


- Anthony

thanks.... Not that easy for a not native English spoken guy like me....

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 13:09

Fact though Parker price them not lower than import so go figure

 

Yes, back when I was into Parkers, especially Frontiers, I kept eyeing a made-in-China translucent blue w/ silver cap/gold clip but it was $50, $15-20 more than NOS ones from England and US that I'd been buying so I passed on it. Sure looked pretty, though.


It's hard work to tell which is Old Harry when everybody's got boots on.


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Posted 26 May 2019 - 16:49

For me, the only Parker I'm buying that comes from China is the Vectors.  I don't think even the Chinese are going to make a knock off of a pen that basic.  



#20 ParkerDuofold

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 17:59

 
Yes, back when I was into Parkers, especially Frontiers, I kept eyeing a made-in-China translucent blue w/ silver cap/gold clip but it was $50, $15-20 more than NOS ones from England and US that I'd been buying so I passed on it. Sure looked pretty, though.


Hi Chromantic,

I have a UK Frontier... it's a great little pen... and I think I only paid around $25 for it... it's a gold-trimmed Flighter. :)


- Anthony
With thanks to my Mom & Dad; who taught me to run free, but not run wild.

Please pray the Rosary daily. Thank You, St. Jude, for favors granted. :)

Grab life with both arms and give it a bear hug every day! :D





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