Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the FPN Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies






Photo

The Fountain Pen That Never Dries Out

nibs innovation

  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 Miskatonic

Miskatonic

    NOS (New Old Stock)

  • Member - Silver

  • PipPip
  • 15 posts

Posted 14 May 2019 - 15:50

This company thinks they have it sorted.
 
"With a marvelous bit of problem solving, done through re-engineering a product that hasn’t seen much innovation in over half a century, Indigraph eliminates the pen’s drying out problem. How does it do this? By constantly keeping the pen’s tip in contact with water!"



Sponsored Content

#2 BaronWulfraed

BaronWulfraed

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 955 posts
  • Location:Lowell, MI
  • Flag:

Posted 14 May 2019 - 17:42

This company thinks they have it sorted.
 
"With a marvelous bit of problem solving, done through re-engineering a product that hasn’t seen much innovation in over half a century, Indigraph eliminates the pen’s drying out problem. How does it do this? By constantly keeping the pen’s tip in contact with water!"

 

<snort>

 

I have a single example of a mid-70s Faber-Castell TG1 technical pen. The inner cap (exposed at the end) contains a blue-tone "pill" (I don't know what it is made of). One was supposed to drip water into the cap to soak this pill. It acted as a humidifier when the pen is capped.



#3 Bo Bo Olson

Bo Bo Olson

    Pen Dust

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,043 posts
  • Location:Germany

Posted 14 May 2019 - 18:00

Get rid of all but one or two pens, and use them daily....will not dry out. :unsure: :rolleyes:

It's this modern day, ink more pens than go comfortably in a shirt pocket (2) that leads to pens sitting around unused and drying out.

:P

Sigh, we did have that problem as kids in school back in B&W TV days...we thought it a problem with cartridges....pre-converter. Had to open up the pen and squeeze the cartridge.

A lever pen sometimes needed a slight lift of the lever to get the ink flowing......or in either case.... shaking the pen/nib at the paper until ink splattered.. :headsmack: ..was also normal.

 

One can have a shot glass on the desk to dip the pen into....&or I have a rubber stamp cup with a sponge in it, that if kept damp, is poke and go.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 14 May 2019 - 18:03.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 


#4 fabri00

fabri00

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,137 posts
  • Location:Italy
  • Flag:

Posted 14 May 2019 - 18:50

Also the platinum slip&seal serie never dry out.
I have at office a plaisire inked with BSB and it write also after weeks of no use.

#5 txomsy

txomsy

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 281 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 14 May 2019 - 22:18

Didn't a safety retractable nib pen produce an equivalent solution one hundred years ago?



#6 Olya

Olya

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 715 posts

Posted 14 May 2019 - 22:43

My understanding is that this pen has been specifically designed for use with India ink, so not really a comparison to the other fpens mentioned here.

But a great comparison to the mid-70s Faber-Castell TG1 technical pen as mentioned above by BaronWulfraed.



#7 A Smug Dill

A Smug Dill

    飽食終日無所用心

  • FPN Supporter - Rhodium

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,172 posts
  • Location:Sydney, Australia
  • Flag:

Posted 15 May 2019 - 03:22

Also the platinum slip&seal serie never dry out.


Not exactly never. Platinum claims that the 'half-life' of a full 1.2cc ink cartridge plugged into the feed is two years, if a Platinum #3776 Century pen is stored horizontally in a cool dark place.
 

I have at office a plaisire inked with BSB and it write also after weeks of no use.


Sure; for such a short time-frame, that is as expected. But then so would many other pens that make no particular marketing claim about how resistant to drying out they are when capped and unused.

My Rotring 400 with a steel EF nib (and always, always inked with Noodler's X-Feather) has never dried out on me in five years, even though I only use it once in a blue moon, and have refilled it once or twice in all that time. It always wrote immediately when uncapped with no hesitation.

Edited by A Smug Dill, 15 May 2019 - 03:41.

I'm a fountain pen enthusiast, but not your consultant (as a fellow consumer) to advise on getting better value-for-money from your discretionary spending or protecting your investment in the hobby. I like to share the particularly meritorious or disappointing traits of products I've used, through product reviews and replies to others' posts, but please don't expect (or ask) me to frame things specifically in terms of how it would apply to your choice of pens, inks and paper products, or satisfy your preferences for shading, sheen, wet, broad, cheap, et cetera.


#8 langere

langere

    Antique

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,448 posts
  • Location:Alexandria, Virginia
  • Flag:

Posted 15 May 2019 - 03:23

Entropy - it will get you eventually.

 

Erick


Currently in Rotation:

Bexley Owners Club 2014 "F" nib running Noodler's Cayenne

Osprey Milano "M" nib running Waterman Green

Guider Mini "EF" nib running Montblanc Racing Green

PenBBS 266 "F" nib running Noodler's Heart of Darkness

 

 


#9 vicpen123

vicpen123

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 170 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 15 May 2019 - 03:35

I still have two Castell TGm drafting pens (0.25 white and 0.3 yellow) from the 70s that were used in the days before CAD. Note NOT Faber Castel but Castell.

 

The top of the cap has a small semi sealed water reservoir for a drop of water to keep the point wet when not being constantly used. The point could pass through the slits in the reservoir.

 

However, even the drop of water eventually evaporated and the pen dried out.

 

Rapidograph sold a pen holder for up to nine pens known as Rapidomat that had a wet sponge in the base to maintain moisture for constantly used pens. Worked very well so long as the sponge was kept wet.

 

Oh, the good old days when architectural drafting was a craft and not a series of clicks and inky fingers and hands were definitely not for decorative display and washed off every night.



#10 SoulSamurai

SoulSamurai

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 918 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:36

FYI: http://www.fountainp...-for-indian-ink

#11 georges zaslavsky

georges zaslavsky

    vintageandmodernpenslover

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,014 posts
  • Location:France
  • Flag:

Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:09

Parker 51, Sheaffer PFM and Sheaffer Vac Fill Triumph


Pens are like watches , once you start a collection, you can hardly go back. And pens like all fine luxury items do improve with time

#12 Parker51

Parker51

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,191 posts
  • Location:North America, U.S.A., Ohio, Delaware Cty

Posted 26 May 2019 - 10:18

Add Kaweco All Sport when kept n a place that is mobile.

#13 Noihvo

Noihvo

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,477 posts
  • Location:Eslöv, Southern Sweden
  • Flag:

Posted 26 May 2019 - 15:40

fpn_1558885211__img_5112.jpg

 

fpn_1558885225__img_5113.jpg


"We are one."

 

– G'Kar, The Declaration of Principles

–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

 

Are you looking for a custom bound book? Check out my Etsy page.


#14 benbot517

benbot517

    A Dapper Chap

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 774 posts
  • Location:Portland, Oregon
  • Flag:

Posted 26 May 2019 - 16:39

For real though, a pilot varsity practically never dries out

"Oh deer."


#15 rwilsonedn

rwilsonedn

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,802 posts

Posted 27 May 2019 - 21:30

Second that. I have both Varsities (who can buy just one?) and a Pilot Petit1 that can go for, apparently, years without failing to write on the first stroke.

ron



#16 inkstainedruth

inkstainedruth

    Ancient Artifact

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,161 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 28 May 2019 - 02:22

For real though, a pilot varsity practically never dries out

 

Maybe yours didn't.  Mine croaked in 3 days worth of journal entries.  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth


"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

#17 pajaro

pajaro

    Amblin along like I had good sense.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,340 posts
  • Location:Tecumseh, MI
  • Flag:

Posted 28 May 2019 - 05:33

 

Maybe yours didn't.  Mine croaked in 3 days worth of journal entries.  

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

Not everyone apparently has the same luck.  I have found many reports of perfection don't jive with my experience.  It's disappointing when this happens.  Exceedingly few pens meet the expectations inspired by owner reports. 


"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

They took the blue from the skies and the pretty girls' eyes and a touch of Old Glory too . . .


#18 A Smug Dill

A Smug Dill

    飽食終日無所用心

  • FPN Supporter - Rhodium

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,172 posts
  • Location:Sydney, Australia
  • Flag:

Posted 28 May 2019 - 07:23

Not everyone apparently has the same luck.  I have found many reports of perfection don't jive with my experience.  It's disappointing when this happens.  Exceedingly few pens meet the expectations inspired by owner reports.


I have yet to come across a "user report" or anecdote of a Platinum #3776 Century pen (i) drying out while capped and unused, and (ii) which Platinum refuses to regard as a defective product and fix/replace under warranty.

I have a handful of modern, gold-nibbed Platinum #3776 fountain pens that dried out on me in the span of a few months, but they aren't designated Century and aren't equipped with the Slip-and-Seal mechanism (i.e. spring-loaded inner cap). Irrespective of whether some fellow owners had better luck/experiences, I don't have a valid reason to expect those pens of mine to equal the performance of the Platinum #3776 Century pens I have -- even if I have the 'right' as a fallible individual consumer to expect whatever baselessly; I just cannot hold anyone else to account when I'm hence disappointed.

I'm a fountain pen enthusiast, but not your consultant (as a fellow consumer) to advise on getting better value-for-money from your discretionary spending or protecting your investment in the hobby. I like to share the particularly meritorious or disappointing traits of products I've used, through product reviews and replies to others' posts, but please don't expect (or ask) me to frame things specifically in terms of how it would apply to your choice of pens, inks and paper products, or satisfy your preferences for shading, sheen, wet, broad, cheap, et cetera.


#19 Enkida

Enkida

    Full Cyborg

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 213 posts
  • Location:Germany
  • Flag:

Posted 28 May 2019 - 10:04

I can't believe no one has yet named the obvious winner in the fountain pen that never dries out contest: the one that's never inked!

 

... sorry, I just couldn't help myself...

 

 

Not everyone apparently has the same luck.  I have found many reports of perfection don't jive with my experience.  It's disappointing when this happens.  Exceedingly few pens meet the expectations inspired by owner reports. 

 

I think part of the issue is that a pen that gets an owner excited enough to report about it generally is a pen that is performing well enough that you want to share that joy with others.  It may or may not be a sample representation of the rest of that company's manufacture of that particular model, plus user preferences are always a subjective thing.  I will say in general, when browsing Google or even FPN for pen reviews, it's harder to find critical (pen) reviews than glowing ones.


sig2.jpgsig1.jpg

 

Events may be horrible or inescapable. Men always have a choice - if not whether, then how they endure.

- Lois McMaster Bujold


#20 A Smug Dill

A Smug Dill

    飽食終日無所用心

  • FPN Supporter - Rhodium

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,172 posts
  • Location:Sydney, Australia
  • Flag:

Posted 28 May 2019 - 10:26

I think part of the issue is that a pen that gets an owner excited enough to report about it generally is a pen that is performing well enough that you want to share that joy with others.  It may or may not be a sample representation of the rest of that company's manufacture of that particular model, plus user preferences are always a subjective thing.


But it should never have been considered representative, whether someone who obviously feels strong enough about it relates a positive or negative experience; it's just a single data point (even if that all that particular reviewer 'knows' from first-hand experience) out of thousands or even millions of other owners/users of that product, many of whom would be silently satisfied or disappointed, and yet others may have 'reviewed' it -- online, or by word-of-mouth to family, friends and acquaintances -- unbeknownst to the individual prospective buyer. As a consumer, one could very safely assume that he/she will have incomplete and/or imperfect information on a product when making 'informed' purchasing decisions; risk and uncertainty is part and parcel of all that.

I'm a fountain pen enthusiast, but not your consultant (as a fellow consumer) to advise on getting better value-for-money from your discretionary spending or protecting your investment in the hobby. I like to share the particularly meritorious or disappointing traits of products I've used, through product reviews and replies to others' posts, but please don't expect (or ask) me to frame things specifically in terms of how it would apply to your choice of pens, inks and paper products, or satisfy your preferences for shading, sheen, wet, broad, cheap, et cetera.






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: nibs, innovation



Sponsored Content




|