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Pelikan 100 Pd (Palladium) Nibs

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#1 keram

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 15:40

Hello Everyone! :)

 

If that's OK, I would have a kind question regarding the war-time Pelikan 100 and the Pd nib it was at that time (if I understand it correctly) offered with.

 

Browsing through our domestic Polish eBay-styled websites, I have come across two Pelikans 100 with Pd nibs.

 

In the attachment and belowyou can see photos of both Pelikans 100:

 

- no. 1:

 

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- no. 2:

 

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Pelikan_100_no2_Photo_2.jpg

 

Now, as you can see, the Pelikans, albeit both featuring Pd nibs, both have differently looking Pd nibs.

 

The Pelikan no. 1 has a nib very similar to the ones I can see here: https://www.pelikan-...1929/index.html

 

However, the no. 2 is different, more goldish, and with a line running to both sides of the "Pd" imprint? I cannot find any other Pel 100 with such a Pd nib.

 

Does anyone know anything about it? Would you say it is a legitimate Pelikan Pd nib from that time?

 

I would really not like to purchase any counterfeit...



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#2 carlos.q

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 17:08

I don't believe the second pen is counterfeit. Many Pd nibs received a very thin gold wash to make them look more attractive. If you search Dominic's place you will find a similar gold looking Pd nib:
https://www.pelikan-.../100/index.html

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Edited by carlos.q, 13 May 2019 - 17:10.


#3 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 23:14

I think those must be 1938/9 nibs....in the Summer of '38 Hitler stole the gold.

I'm sure soon someone told the finance department the nibs were worth too much and effected the balance of trade detrimental to Germany.

 

The Pelikan war pens '39-43 were CN nibs..............and not all are superflex or even semi-flex as some have lucked into. Mine is regular flex. Last fountain pens were made in May of '43, the companies being warned in March.

 

I have a few other war pens, that are 'just' stainless steel....on the lower level than say an Osmia, for the Reform...and then Reform was a solid first tier made pen. The nibs appear to be generic and not stamped Reform.

The Original Reform was big in the Export business. As soon as the War was over, importers sent Reform cash in advance so Reform could buy material to make pens again...........and those nibs were not of the class one would expect from Reform.

 

The owner of Reform closed down in the mid-50's rather than make a cheap fountain pen to chase the ball points with...............the 1745 are cheap pens made by another company that bought up the Reform name.


German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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#4 keram

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Posted 14 May 2019 - 07:53

Dear @carlos.q and @Bo Bo Olson - thank you for your amazing input!

 

I must say that your knowledge is inspiring, I have especially enjoyed the history of the nibs! I am indeed now much calmer that both of these pens are the real deal. I have also contacted the seller and got to know that they both miss corks from their pistons... However I think that can be salvaged by a professional.



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Posted 14 May 2019 - 10:02

Fountainble on our com, re-corks my pens. You can look him up in our members section.

Cork is the smoothest of all gaskets. He sizes the cork, boils in paraffin..(a thicker mineral oil) and bees wax and then slathers with silicon grease.

 

Someone who corks with out boiling it in oil and beeswax is only doing half the job.

 

PM me for the rest of his name and address. He is in Belgium. I've had 5-7 pens re-corked by him.

If fact even if the pen might have had a Plastic Gasket 1.0(@1939-55) that died....and it dies more often than Plastic Gasket 2.0 ('55-now), I get cork. Jim Marshal and Laurence Oldfield in their wonderful pen repair book, stated properly prepared cork is the smoothest gasket.

 

 

Another young noobie, insisted on an O ring :headsmack: :wallbash: from Francis, thinking a cork would only last 30 years....will last 70 or more if used often....got a couple.

It's when it sits in the dark of a drawer for a generation or two that cork becomes dry and crumbly.

 

O rings can cause an old pen to bulge, though someone disagrees with that.  I see using an O ring in piston pens to be a cheap out, and dangerous to the pen. I'd never buy one that has been repaired  with an O ring instead of Plastic Gasket 2.0 or a properly prepared cork.

 

One can buy a sheet of Plastic Gasket 2.0 and the right size cutters (one has to get perhaps a set, or tell him what exact pen you are putting in a new 2.0 gasket so he can send you the proper sized cutter) from Richard Binder...........but I chose to let Francis cork or re-cork my pens.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 14 May 2019 - 10:05.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 


#6 whych

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Posted 14 May 2019 - 12:58

To get the pen re-corked in Poland,contact FPN user kawuska who lives in Poland.





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